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Any new sites listed in SERPS?

in index, no SERPS

         

textex

12:13 pm on Jun 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Has anyone gotten any new sites listed in Yahoo!?

I have sites that have been online for months, are listed in Yahoo! index but are not returned in SERPS.

SLURP has not even visited for some time.

Are these issues normal?

textex

4:04 pm on Jun 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Nobody has any input on this?

bbonline

6:32 pm on Jun 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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According to my experience you should look into if other websites are using your content or even the main page and pushing you out of the serps into penalty. Yahoo favors crooks and copycats.

manzan

12:17 am on Jul 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I have had my new site up in yahoo for the past two months and it has indexed only 5% of the site. It does crawl the site regularly.

allanp73

9:17 pm on Jul 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I have noticed the pattern that goes the following way:
1)new sites show up only for exact searches. using quotes or url (not showing for anything else)
2)2 couple of month later sites show up for text on pages, but Yahoo drops index or pages temporarily from time to time.
3) completely indexed and stable but takes another few months.

I have seen this pattern over and over again. New sites take awhile to get established with Yahoo

Dayo_UK

9:21 pm on Jul 3, 2004 (gmt 0)



textex

I am having problems getting new sites into Yahoo too :(.

Even older (18 months) sites are only partially indexed.

Dayo

helenp

11:20 am on Jul 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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allanP:
I have noticed the pattern that goes the following way:
1)new sites show up only for exact searches. using quotes or url (not showing for anything else)
2)2 couple of month later sites show up for text on pages, but Yahoo drops index or pages temporarily from time to time.
3) completely indexed and stable but takes another few months.

1)only exact searches = I think from google database,

Slurp spiders me, and for some week ago had an deep spidering.
Yesterday my homepage and 3 other pages was in yahoo index doing domain:mysite.com and showing up in serps,
these 4 pages still shows up in atw and av, as well as yahoo co.uk.

Today my homepage and these 3 pages were dropped on yahoo.com but got another 4 pages in....and still shows yesterdays result in yahoo.co.uk, av and atw.
Is this normal?
Pages taken out to get other in,...

allanp73

3:00 pm on Jul 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hi Helen,

This is the same kind of thing I have been noticing. This seems to be a normal part of the pattern.

helenp

11:23 pm on Jul 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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This just drives me nut....
Seems yahoo split new sites on 2 diferentes databases,
i.e when searching for more pages from my site I have 8 pages in including the homepage, these pages are as well in ATW and AV.

But most of the time when search for more pages for my site, the homepage or the other 7 pages are not in, instead there are 13 other pages (not shown ever in ATW or AV).

Though my homepage only seems to be very short time in yahoo I nearly donīt have any hits from Yahoo.

Tim

1:30 pm on Jul 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Remember more pages from this site is more pages from this site that are relevant to the keyword entered in the search box not just a global site restrict.

helenp

1:40 pm on Jul 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Thanks Tim,
but doing mysite.com gives the same results as more pages, actually I searched for mysite, then clicked more pages, so they are all relevant.
There are 2 blocks indexed on 2 diferents databases, and unfortunately my homepage is on the block that is less shown.... bad luck :).
Supose that when time pass by, both databases will show same amount of pages.

steveb

11:02 pm on Jul 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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A few days ago Yahoo changed how they handle typing in the search box: domain.com

Previously what would be displayed is a normal bunch of search results relevant to domain.com, including stuff like "Review of Domain.com". Now those pages are not displayed (expect it looks like when the domain itself is penalized). Instead you get a fairly complete list of the pages on domain.com that are indexed.

This is an enormous change for review and comparison sites, or anybody who ranked well for type-ins of other site's domain names.

Anyway, try searching that way rather than site:domain.com

helenp

11:20 pm on Jul 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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gets same results both way.
1 second 8 pages, other second 13 diferents...
been like this for days.

No doubt their are 2 databases for new sites, or just mine, donīt know.
But my homepage is more out than in.

helenp

9:14 pm on Jul 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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wow..........
the time it toke to get 14 pages in 1 datacenter and 16 in another.....

Today seems they started from 1....

All my innerpages has been dropped, only the index pages are in. Now I have 3 in 1 datacenter and 4 in the other data center....

helenp

9:30 pm on Jul 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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oops, they back now...
waited hours before posting...

Dayo_UK

9:34 pm on Jul 19, 2004 (gmt 0)



helenp

I saw it too....

As it was Yahoo I almost didn't care! - however, seeing my pages going from 450 odd to 1 at least made me think some changes were happening.

But hey - no doubt with Yahoo changes for the worse.

lstrand

2:48 pm on Jul 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Any methods to influence Yahoo spider to visit more often or deeper into a site? A newer site. I've tried many linking strategies within a single property and Yahoo's crawler isn't going deep at all.

Google's crawler buzzes through all the pages within a few days. Heck, even the MSN bot is more active than Yahoo's.

Pages are available and nothing fancy. Lots of juicy text for a single topic. Web logs show Yahoo as infrequent visitor beyond index and robots.txt page.

How long to get a deep crawl? Any hints for "encouraging" Yahoo's spider to crawl and crawl? PR considerations make a difference?

Great content and even back links to home page but Yahoo seems uninterested.

Any SEOs out there who specialize in the "new Yahoo" for getting pages crawled/indexed?

DaveAtIFG

6:45 pm on Jul 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Any hints for "encouraging" Yahoo's spider to crawl and crawl? PR considerations make a difference?
I've had no crawling problems but sites I deal with are all < 100 pages and most are static.

Go back to basics! ;) Try submitting (or building and submitting) your site map. And Yahoo loves incoming links!

textex

11:36 am on Aug 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Here is my update...

Sites are listed in index, but still not showing in SERPS....

When I search for 'my site name' which is 'name keyword keyword' (note ' are note used in actual search) I am ranked number one, so I am guessing I am not penalized.

None of these sites were listed pre-Yahooink!. I hope this is just a long waiting game....

Is there a definitive way to tell if you have been penalized?