Succesful Yahoo Optimization

I've done it, but can it be done on Google?

[markis00]

Well, I never thought one of my under-performing sites would make it into the top 10 for its keywords, but it's done it on Yahoo.

The keywords I chose for it were VERY competitive, but according to Yahoo I now have 192 links coming to that site. I optimized it, left it for a while, and after about 4-5 months the site is now top 10 on yahoo for two popular keyword phrases, and second page for another big keyword.

Anyways, one thing that bothers me is the site's nowhere to be found for the same keywords on Google. According to Yahoo the site's got 192 backlinks, but Google sees less then 30 backlinks.

This somewhat bothers me. It comes down to; Yahoo vs Google. It's been a hell of a lot easier to optimize for Yahoo then it has been for Google, but after 192 links from over 50 different sites, what the heck's wrong with Google?

Is anyone else finding they can get spots on Yahoo with proper optimization but are left in the dust on Google?

[helenp]

Well,
I have more than 200 in yahoo and only 50 in google,
google donīt show all your backlins, though they are filtered out.
Google only shows the good ones, with most value.
for one week ago I only had 18 in google, but are increasing though I have now same pr on all pages in first level as homepage, so many of my own links counts as links.
I wonder if links from yahoo are all spidered and indexed by slurp, or is mixed up with google result without the google filter.

[2_much]

Markis, that's a pretty widespread problem; unless you are perceived as a hub/authority on both engines, it's tough to rank well for both as their on-page criteria is different and the percentages for the off-page are too.

My approach has been to create sites targeted for the engines separately. As soon as Yahoo went live I created a "Yahoo cluster" especially optimized for Yahoo, and got those to rank. So now I have "Google" cluster and my "Yahoo" cluster.

The drawback is getting link pop for more sites, but there are ways to work with this.

[PatrickDeese]

> less than 30

don't forget that Google will only show backlinks from pages that have a PR4 or greater - it definitely sees the links, it just doesn't show them.

[markis00]

I see...

so the strategy to ranking on Google would be to get links of PR 5 and higher (since my site is PR5).

That's somewhat difficult though...

[PatrickDeese]

no - just because they are visible/non-visible to you doesnt really matter, if the page has any PR, even PR 0 - G is seeing the link.