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Yahoo only has 15 out of 92 pages indexed

Why?

         

jpell

1:57 am on May 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Before the March update most of my hits came from G. Since then most of my hits come from yahoo, and specifically one page for about 10 variations of a keyword. I queried Y for my domain name and they only have 15 pages indexed. Anyone else? Any thoughts on the Yahoo algo? Thanks for reading and any info.
JPell

sdani

2:08 am on May 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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wow.. you have 15 pages indexed.. thats great. I have only the home page listed :) .. I am even paying yahoo for directory listing and I even have about 50 incoming links

mars9820

3:18 am on May 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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15 pages...wow wow wow. can we change?

I wish I was in that position with only a few pages listed.

However I did see yahoo crawling very deep a day ago and the only 2 things I can think of is:

1. yahoo finally likes my page and want to crawl it (we just update the whole page with many new URL's).

2. yahoo does crawl the pages submitted to the free add url (we submitted to there about 2 or 3 weeks ago).

Now only hope that crawl=index. But yeah you never know.

2_much

4:18 am on May 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Can you point more links to your other pages that are not indexed?

Having inbound links from separate domains helps your pages get crawled.

If you're not paying for SiteMatch, it might take some time - the length depends on the quantity and quality of your inbound links.

atlrus

3:42 pm on May 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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he-he, my website has over 2,000 pages; I have over 3,000 links to it, my sitemap is indexed by yahoo and the total number of pages indexed by yahoo is...3.
So, yeah - You da man!

jpell

4:09 am on May 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for the posts. I really feel out of the loop on this. I have been so concentrated on google because until the March update that killed my Google traffic I never gave Yahoo a thought. I had almost 0 Yahoo traffic. Then coincidentally I got a huge surge in Yahoo traffic which made me take a look at them and wonder why. Now here's the kicker...
I decided to go with a liquid CSS design after the loss in G traffic after the Ides update. As absurd as it may sound, I never knew until I posted a related question in the CSS forum, that resolutions displayed pages differently, and I didn't like that my page at above 800x600 was to the left with lots of real estate left over. Plus the tables which lined up in that format looked like crap in the other resolutions. The page weight was decreased by about 10,000 kbytes. I figured out how to make the old pages resize to fit the browser in the interum. My old pages were html heavy with the actual content about 100 or more (I haven't counted) lines below the structure and other b.s. I thought that by using CSS which put my actual content about 15 lines or so below the b.s. structure that that would make a change with G, and have the pages top 10 like they were before the update, no wording different at all just placed differently on the pages from 6 tables to 3 div's. It didn't work even with the same exact content. There is something there to figure out. However, yahoo still has the pages indexed with the new layout so I guess they like them even with the changes, however I don't get any hits for the changed pages, only the one page that has remained unchanged (the one that originally got me almost of my google traffic but no longer does, it is the only original page on my site). I can't go back to the old format because G doesn't like it, however they still like that specific page, but only for one specific keyword, unlike Y who uses it as a top 1-10 SERP result for many keywords. Frankly, I'd rather have the google traffic for obvious reasons...there was more of it. BUT... G decided they didn't like my old format and sent me off into space. Yahoo loves it and sends me 99% of my traffic for the one page (not my index page btw, but on average I get 4-5 visits to other pages after viewing the keyword page which I think is pretty exceptional considering my audience). Another wierd thing too... I had a page related to a specific day of the year. I kept it in the old 6 table, html heavy format because I was afraid to change it because I was getting great G traffic. After the day I changed it to the new format, 3 column liquid CSS. I stopped looking for it after the change after 20 SERP page queries after being #1. I did not change one thing other than the layout. Yahoo dropped it too for top SERP's. Obviously, yes, go and change all of the pages back to the old format... or not? Google has all of my pages indexed, Yahoo has 15. Who knows why. A website would look incredibly inconsistent to have two formats, and then the visitor might think they were redirected somewhere else... G dropped the changed holiday page in SERP as well into never-neverland. But considering that nothing about the page changed except weight and placement of the exact content, one must wonder why? And most importantly how to satisfy both. Links didn't change, titles, tags, you name it. I just don't get it.
JPell
<added>I don't have a clue as to what sitematch is, is it like adwords?

elmarpanzenberger

8:54 am on May 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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He-He as well ...
I have 150 (well actually 149) pages indexed by Y! but except for site:xyz.com searches none of them ever show up.
If somebody could explain me this i would even consider to pay a beer.

Allie_Mae

2:14 pm on May 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I have 131 pages indexed. But I too receive 0 traffic from Yahoo, so it's not worth much

swa66

7:53 am on May 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Just checked almost all of my pages are indexed in yahoo, as for referral traffic I get from them:

[relative numbers:]
10 google
4 yahoo
1 msn

The keywords I get referrals for are #1 in SERP position for all 3 search engines. Can't say I'm unhappy except that yahoo refuses to pick up a domain name change (redirecting for years now).

dougs

7:31 pm on May 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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5000 pages
5000 inbounds
google traffic good
yahoo traffic none.

Doug

Patrick Taylor

2:22 pm on May 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I think it's called constipation.

I have a page in particular, that's built on a 5000 searches a month run-of-the-mill sort of keyphrase and it ranks more or less the same (#3) on Google and Yahoo! I get maybe 200 hits a day from Google (for that phrase) and about one a week from Yahoo!

ghankerson

4:19 pm on May 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I guess I am lukcy. I have been building pages for Google only and I noticed about a month ago that my Yahoo traffic has surpassed Google. One of my sites has 7,500 pages listed in Google and only 551 in Yahoo, yet I get more traffic from Yahoo. Every week Yahoo is adding 100 or more of my pages and Google 500.

jbgilbert

4:46 am on May 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Wish Tim (or somebody) would actually tell us what the issue is with Yahoo indexing anyway.

Since Yahoo left Google, the Slurp crawler is doing a better job, but the same OLD problems exist --- crawl, crawl, NO INDEX, NO INDEX.

gefilte

5:21 pm on May 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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About two months ago Y surpassed Google as my principal source of hits. About 89 out of 120 pages are indexed, but that number occasionally is less, varying each time I check it. It's been that way for two months. I assume at some point Y will get all the pages, but maybe not if other people are still having problems getting pages indexed.

jim_w

5:44 pm on May 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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My hits from Yahoo dropped as well, it seems that if you submit you competitors URL without the www, they will get tossed to around the 200th position. Check to see if you show up for your KW’s with the www and then if there are some pages w/o the www.

For years I was doing fine in Yahoo and all the data for our site in their database was www. Now our site has references to our site without the www and the w/o gets processed before the references with www. All inbound links to our site have been with the www for years. There are no sites that link to us w/o the www, so there is only 3 ways this could have happened.

1. Big bug in Y algo.

2. Someone at Y is also employed by a spammer, ah, sorry, SEO, and he or she changed the database by hand.

3. Our competitor's SEO added our site w/o the www, most likely what happen due to the fact that after the change in Y’s database, they made sure that they went 10 pages down to find and click on the link so we would know where we ranked and they spoofed the domain name so that it would look real suspicious, and t he domain name is not registered. There are other reasons why I know this happen, but I am filing a complaint with the FTC and the evidence I have collected on this competitor for years.

MaxM

6:12 pm on May 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Same thing here not many pages indexed.

So far this month search engine traffic is:
71% Google
25% Yahoo
4% Other

And Yahoo sections:
72% dir.yahoo.com
19% search.yahoo.com
9% my.yahoo.com

So pure Yahoo search isn't much to talk about.

jim_w

4:21 am on May 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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MaxM

Are those stats using the same keywords?

wanderingmind

8:04 am on May 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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2 sites, A and B.

Site A.
100,000 pages.
Google indexed - 30,000
Yahoo indexed - 4,000
Traffic Google - 95 %
Traffic Yahoo - 2-3 %.

Site B.
58 pages
Google indexed - 100%
Yahoo indexed - 100% (much delayed indexing)
Traffic Google - 25%
Traffic Yahoo - 70%

MaxM

10:25 am on May 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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jim_w, these % were from server logs.
But keywords are roughly the same from both.