Welcome to WebmasterWorld Guest from 54.196.114.201

Forum Moderators: martinibuster

Message Too Old, No Replies

New Yahoo Toolbar!

with web rank!

     
4:33 am on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

Moderator from US 

WebmasterWorld Administrator 10+ Year Member

joined:Dec 3, 2002
posts:1910
votes: 4


[edit.companion.yahoo.com...]

Web Rank:
The popularity ranking of the site you are visiting as interpreted by Yahoo!

Here is the WR FAQ: [help.yahoo.com...]

4:39 am on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

Moderator from US 

WebmasterWorld Administrator 10+ Year Member

joined:Dec 3, 2002
posts:1910
votes: 4


I have yet to see a page with rank...not even yahoo.com. Maybe you need to be logged in?

Who wants to trade high WR links? hahaha

<edit>It is actually working about 50% of the time</edit>

[edited by: werty at 5:25 am (utc) on Mar. 19, 2004]

4:41 am on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member

joined:July 3, 2002
posts:1590
votes: 0


You don't need to be logged in. I'm seeing it ok. Yahoo and Google are both (gasp!) ten.
4:44 am on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member

joined:July 3, 2002
posts:1590
votes: 0


From the help page:


To help determine a site's Yahoo! Web Rank value, the Yahoo! Companion Toolbar collects anonymous URL data about sites visited by Toolbar users who have enabled the Yahoo! Web Rank feature and sends this information back to Yahoo!. The Toolbar does not collect personally identifiable information about you (e.g., your name, phone number, email address, etc.).

Ugh... I'm glad I didn't wake up to this... I've uninstalled it - too busy and like the Alexa toolbar. Does it even have an impact on search?

4:47 am on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member

joined:Sept 28, 2001
posts:1380
votes: 0


This may seem like a dumb question, but if I have the toolbar installed but under View->Toolbars I uncheck the Yahoo (or Google) toolbar, can they still collect data from me?
4:53 am on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

Full Member

10+ Year Member

joined:Dec 30, 2002
posts:295
votes: 0


Gee this is fantastic I can see Google PR by using this new Yahoo toolbar, seems to be exactly the same, oh I'm so happy.
4:58 am on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member

joined:July 3, 2002
posts:1590
votes: 0


Its not the same. It is based on traffic from toolbar users. This is Yahoo's take on the Alexa toolbar.

If they use this to rank sites they're crazy.

Saying that, I'm off to break out my IP spoofing kit and buy 50 old computers. Time for the real pigeon-rank. ;)

5:04 am on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member jenstar is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member

joined:Dec 22, 2002
posts:4663
votes: 0


To change your toolbar options, you need to sign into your Yahoo account or ID. Hmmmm...
5:10 am on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member

joined:July 22, 2002
posts:1807
votes: 1


Who wants to trade high WR links?

Better yet...who wants to be the first to try to sell WR? :P
5:14 am on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member

joined:May 29, 2002
posts:1819
votes: 0


Oh no another toolbar!

Already installed and I can confirm that the ranking is not the same as the G toolbar on all the sites I have been.

5:29 am on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

Preferred Member

10+ Year Member

joined:Sept 18, 2002
posts:432
votes: 0


My index page has a webrank of 5 but is not in the Y! index.

What's the use of the ranking then?

5:32 am on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member

joined:July 3, 2002
posts:1590
votes: 0


Guys... Read the posts: the WR is based on how many toolbar users have visitited the sites.

And just to show me up Yahoo have this on one of the beta help pages:

The Web Rank values are calculated using a sophisticated scoring algorithm provides a measure of the popularity of the Web page or Web site that you are visiting.

Oh well...

[edited by: edit_g at 6:19 am (utc) on Mar. 19, 2004]

5:34 am on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

Preferred Member

10+ Year Member

joined:Oct 8, 2003
posts:397
votes: 0


still no love for the mac users
5:48 am on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member

joined:June 5, 2001
posts:2724
votes: 1


MMmmMmm I have to roll back the radio show Tim from Yahoo was on tonight but someone asked the question if Yahoo's companion was going to have something similar to google's pagerank...
6:10 am on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member steveb is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member

joined:June 20, 2002
posts:4652
votes: 0


For those with limited pages in the datebase, from the Web Rank help page:

The toolbar helps Yahoo "to discover new public sites faster and incorporate those sites into the Yahoo! Search index resulting in more comprehensive search results."

and

"Yahoo! Web Rank helps alert the Yahoo! Search crawler to the existence of a particular Web site or Web page, and direct a crawler to visit that Web site or Web page for inclusion in Yahoo! Search if it is not already in the Yahoo! Search index."

[help.yahoo.com...]

6:21 am on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member steveb is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member

joined:June 20, 2002
posts:4652
votes: 0


Added two lines to my right click menu, add page to Yahoo favorites and email page to a friend.
6:22 am on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

Moderator This Forum from US 

WebmasterWorld Administrator martinibuster is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month

joined:Apr 13, 2002
posts:14171
votes: 204


I had a sneaky feeling about this, and was clicking around Yahoo this afternoon looking for it but I didn't find it.

This was one of the big rumors at PubCon.

8:44 am on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member sem4u is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member

joined:Dec 18, 2002
posts:3066
votes: 1


I can't see any ranks on mine!

Also, the options added to the right click menus are a bit annoying.

Still it could be a very useful tool :)

11:26 am on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member

joined:July 11, 2003
posts:955
votes: 0


This is a total copy of PageRank (using the same type of ranking system, but sort of on a different db), how could Yahoo do this?

Sid

12:04 pm on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

Full Member

10+ Year Member

joined:May 9, 2003
posts:210
votes: 0


I'm having problems installing. I click the install button, get to the next page that says "a new window will open with the toolbar installed" and ... nothing.

I'm using IE6.0 on w2k.

4:25 pm on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member jenstar is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member

joined:Dec 22, 2002
posts:4663
votes: 0


I notice it also overtakes the "search" button in IE with their own Yahoo search, a "make Yahoo your home page" link, and a ton of links to their various sections.
5:23 pm on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

Preferred Member

10+ Year Member

joined:Sept 26, 2002
posts:435
votes: 0


The WR icon is present when I'm not signed in but doesn't work. Then it decides just to disappear totally when I do sign in. Slightly frustrating that you have to sign in to decide what buttons you want on the toolbar.
5:31 pm on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

Moderator from US 

WebmasterWorld Administrator 10+ Year Member

joined:Dec 3, 2002
posts:1910
votes: 4


The upside to having to sign in for your buttons is that it is the same toolbar buttons/layout if you are at home or work. I have been using the toolbar for a while now, since I yahoo email is my non work default, so it was nice not having to reconfigure it.

Has anyone who installed this notice any extra bot activity to their site yet?

7:11 pm on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

Preferred Member

10+ Year Member

joined:Dec 5, 2001
posts:391
votes: 0


"Yahoo! Web Rank helps alert the Yahoo! Search crawler to the existence of a particular Web site or Web page, and direct a crawler to visit that Web site or Web page for inclusion in Yahoo! Search if it is not already in the Yahoo! Search index."

You mean, like Google does but refuse tell the truth about? or have they owned up yet?

/sorry, just happened again today.

8:08 pm on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

Full Member

10+ Year Member

joined:Apr 25, 2003
posts:324
votes: 0


So I'm hearing that the Yahoo WR is NOT LIKE (or NOT USED LIKE THE GOOGLE PR) in ranking pages?

Tim,
If you are out there, could you clear this up?

9:07 pm on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member

joined:May 21, 2001
posts:2149
votes: 0


If I could get it to WORK I could figure it all out, but alas it looks like a piece of crap. Since Tim is a nice guy and It is supposed to be in beta or something I will let it slide :)

Can't Get the Rank to Show Up.
Doesn't Ask me about it when I Sign Up.

This is 10x more complicated than the Google Toolbar. If you want people to use it - then it shouldn't require you to log in to change options and stuff. None of the options, by the way, seem to be the web rank that I can find.

9:23 pm on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

Junior Member

10+ Year Member

joined:Feb 10, 2003
posts:157
votes: 0


Can't Get the Rank to Show Up.
Doesn't Ask me about it when I Sign Up.

You need to follow the top link on the first
post. It has an option to install the version with
web rank. It took me a minute too :)

9:39 pm on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member

joined:May 21, 2001
posts:2149
votes: 0


Thanks - that is better, but it is now shoing "not ranked by yahoo" for everypage I visit.
10:35 pm on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member steveb is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member

joined:June 20, 2002
posts:4652
votes: 0


Most people here will likely prefer the "Search Companion Toolbar" to the "My Companion Toolbar". Click the down arrow by the Y! and you get the more useful buttons.
11:05 pm on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

Moderator This Forum from US 

WebmasterWorld Administrator martinibuster is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month

joined:Apr 13, 2002
posts:14171
votes: 204


Eeew. Looks like door has closed.

Thank you for inquiring about the 5.4 external Beta test. The Beta testing group is now full.

If you snoozed, you lost.

This 86 message thread spans 3 pages: 86