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2:29 pm on Mar 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

Anyone looked through the t&c you'll be signing up to for SiteMatch?

Under section 2 - License:

"...you grant Overture, its licensees, Third-Party Service Providers and any entities in the Site Match Distribution Network, the right to... ...modifying [your material] or using it commercially and authorizing others to do so... ...This grant specifically includes Overture's right to create and display copies of any and all text, graphics, images, audio, video, and all other material included or found on such Web sites or portions thereof, including the right to create and display thumbnail and full-scale copies of any images or video included on or found on such Web sites or portions thereof."

Sounds like I'm being asked to sign over full copyright of my website to Overture and it's partners. in addition any financial website that falls under the control of the FSA (The Financial Services Authority) can not sign this agreement as all content must be approved by them before being published. Overture can not modify this content without the FSAs approval.

Under section 4a - Fees:

"..thereafter, for each URL that was included within the Site Match Index during the immediately preceding year, you will be charged a nonrefundable annual review fee (whether or not such URL continues to be accepted for inclusion in the Site Match Index following such review)."

Excuse me? So Overture can decided that it doesn't feel like listing my pages anymore and I still have to pay them just because at some time in the past the used to list them?

And that's as far as I bothered reading.

6:05 pm on Mar 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The fees part, I believe, refers to the fact that Yahoo wants to review sites before listing them. If they are not up to standards (like spam) then Yahoo is not obligated to list them. This is similar to the Yahoo directory's terms and conditions.
9:06 pm on Mar 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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you will be charged a nonrefundable annual review fee (whether or not such URL continues to be accepted for inclusion in the Site Match Index following such review)."

well ... better give them a credit card that is used solely for this purpose. that way, when your site did not pass their review or is not showing up in the SERPs, you can easily cancel your credit card to avoid the annual review fee. i wouldn't want to be charged (again and again every year) for a service that i did not receive.

10:00 am on Mar 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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> The fees part, I believe, refers to the fact that Yahoo wants to review sites before listing them

Yes, first part of the clause covers that, but second part allows them to block a URL that they had previously accepted (which I can understand) and yet continue to charge annually for it (which I can't).

3:01 pm on Mar 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Itsakoo you're right, their t&c's are very dodgy. The other day I read through their privacy policy and that's even dodgier.

Seeing it from another perspective, they're trying to use content to add more and more content to all their search databases. Also, remember they are caching.

This isn't really anything new, and it's nothing we can do anything about, as Yahoo traffic is too valuable.

7:30 pm on Mar 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

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In response to posts regarding the Site Match Terms of Service:

The Terms of Service for Site Match grant to Overture and its distribution partners the licenses necessary to use information from Site Match customer web sites, such as text and images, to create Search Engine Results page listing as needed. (e.g. showing a thumbnail or creating a description for your web site if one isnít explicitly provided). As with any terms of service, if you are concerned that the licenses granted in the Site Match Terms of Service are inappropriate, you should obtain independent advice from a competent attorney.

With regards to Section 4a, Overture will charge your credit card on an annual basis as a convenience to ensure you do not unintentionally discontinue your service. However, if you forget to cancel your service and you are charged a renewal fee when your subscription expires, you can contact customer service in a timely fashion to request a refund. Overture does not guarantee a refund, but will consider the facts and circumstances of each request.

7:59 pm on Mar 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

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An official confirmation of the comment on using a disposable credit card that you can cancel because they may charge it anyway and then consider giving a refund if they feel like giving it to you and after you spend some time and money contacting them about it.
8:22 am on Mar 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Sounds like if you get your site booted during an annual review, then call in and say "hey, I hadn't planned to renew this so give me my money back" they'll tell you to go pound salt.

Getting a site loaded with PFI pages booted could be very costly, couldn't it? Better not try to get dodgy sites into this program.

Yahoo Team, if one PFI page on the site gets booted, will the whole site get booted?