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Yahoo like Google?

questions about spidering and new content



3:23 pm on Mar 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Yahoo! is spidering and updating content in the index fast! But what about new content?

Like Google, new sites of mine are in index when the url is searched for. Like Google, new sites are not in SERPS though.

Am I waiting for a new update of added content or am I penalized?


4:54 pm on Mar 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I put a new site online last Friday, got a few related sites to link, and listed it in zeal and dmoz. Googlebot has sniffed the homepage twice, Ask crawled all 78 pages yesterday (way to go Jeeves!), and Yahoo has not been by yet.

So for a new, new site Yahoo is behind its competitors.


5:03 pm on Mar 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I don't see any signs of Google visitng my site at all. Yahoo has my new updated page and so does MSN. They appeared within days of my changing the title. So where is Google? I did the adwords thing so will they ever ad me as long as I am paying to be there?


6:04 pm on Mar 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Beach_lady, Adwords and Google index are two entirely different things. Try looking [webmasterworld.com...] here for possible reasons.


12:24 pm on Mar 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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If Yahoo's spidering and listing your content, but you're not showing up, then you need to optimize your content so it ranks. Look at the sites ranking for your target keywords and try to identify what they are doing that is helping them rank on the top. Then try making changes to your site based on the most common elements. As they update their index and change their rankings very quickly, you can constantly update your sites until you get to the top.


12:27 pm on Mar 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Lots of visits from Googlebots and the Altavista spider. Not a whisper of the Yahoo spider here in Canada, although the Inktomi Slurp spider stops by quite often.


12:47 pm on Mar 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I think Slurp is the spider that Yahoo's using to list content. I don't have all my facts straight just yet, but my understanding is that they have Slurp SI who crawls and indexes content. I don't think there's a Yahoo bot - but I'll get my facts straight and post again.


1:54 pm on Mar 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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With Yahoo and MSN I'm showing up within the first five listings with no problem. I'm anywhere from the #1 spot to #5 but on Google I'm still not showing for my keywords (except for my adwords ad). According to the Google toolbar I'm PR3. I tried looking at the competitors and seeing their keywords. Their pages won't validate and are loaded with errors. They in some cases are a lower PR than I am and some don't have any links. I have gotten recently a ton of links but they don't show up as yet. Most of them are links to sites that are PR3 or or higher with a lot being PR5 or 6. All the links I have gotten have to do with my field and are in the related categories. When checking my logs back for a month I see no evidence that Google has visited. Yahoo has and I guess MSN has because I show up with no problem with them and they have even updated my listing because I changed the title around to put my keywords at the beginning of the title. Google does have a newer page than before the big shift in their listings but not the newer ones. I made changes just so I would know when I was updated. There are only so many keywords that will work for my website and I have tried to include them in my title, my description and in my body. I'm fully optomized and all my pages validate with the W3C Validator. Should I resubmit my listing to Google? From what I've read, I don't need to do that. If they just haven't spidered me in a while, then maybe if and when they do with all the added links maybe I'll move up in rank. I wish I knew about all this before because I used to be always in the top listings for all my keywords with Google and didn't have a document tag, a content tag, no meta tags, full of errors and certainly wouldn't validate. LOL It would have been interesting to see how I ranked at that time.


2:22 pm on Mar 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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they will index your site if you send them money or you need luck and long time to be listed.yahoo not better than dinosaurs Looksmart.money oriented will drive them to the destruction

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