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spinweb

8:12 pm on Feb 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Chris Sherman's article today said that the new Yahoo and Inktomi results are not the same. How does one submit to the new Yahoo crawler?

I could not find a submission area on the Yahoo search page that was linked to from Chris's article. Or do you go thru the directory submission area and pay your $299?

carlr

12:13 am on Feb 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Don't do that.

I just paid 600$ for 2 sites Express Submit just a couple months ago and i was getting traffic from this. But you know what? since today's change i completely stopped getting Yahoo! traffic.

I am p***ed off.

If i were at your place, i would wait a bit.

Tim

1:26 am on Feb 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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spinweb
There is no Yahoo submission prgram at this time to get into the Yahoo Search results. If you buy into the Inktomi Search Submit program you will get a trial period of the Yahoo traffic until April 15th and the existing Inktomi network for the next year from when you sign up.

Carlr- when you signed up for express submit there was no verbage that said that you were going to get traffic from Yahoo. You were buying into MSN and other Inktomi partners. What made you think otherwise? Yahoo is using a new search technology which is not Inktomi. If you send me the site that you are not receiving traffic from I can look into why you may not be showing up.
Thanks, Tim

roscoepico

1:35 am on Feb 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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ooops

taxpod

1:47 am on Feb 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Tim and all,

Isn't the pay thing to be considered for inclusion in the Yahoo directory? And isn't inclusion in the directory a way to get into the seacrh results? At least in the longer run? Aren't pages from the directory included in the spidering?

McMohan

5:47 am on Feb 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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From what I see, presently Yahoo is using the dB from Inktomi and processing that dB in their own algo. I have a site which has some 2000 pages listed in Inktomi and all the pages are in Yahoo too. Another site has only 4 pages out of 200 pages indexed in Ink, so does Yahoo. For me, Inktomi submission is way to confitm your presence in Yahoo.

Best Wishes

Mc

adfree

7:07 am on Feb 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Same here, 50,000+ page site, running extremely well at G and other SEs, since yesterday no traffic whatsoever in Y!

Listed in Y! Directory for 300 bucks (for 1 year now), still no hits in SERPs (which is two different pairs of shoes but an automated crawl for their paying! express submitters was the least I was expecting for 300 bucks a year).

All other sites (neither of them in Y! directory) run well, in fact better now as before with G results.

Someone tell them to treat their paying customers a bit better or nobody will buy this heavy express thing anymore!

Jens

mayor

8:21 am on Feb 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Tim >> existing Inktomi network for the next year from when you sign up

So Inktomi PFI equates pretty much to MSN PFI, not Yahoo PFI.

Tim >> get a trial period of the Yahoo traffic until April 15th.

Can't wait to hear more about this! A Pay-to-Yahoo program? Tim, don't keep us in suspense.

tigger

8:51 am on Feb 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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yes I agree how about a few more bits of info

eyeinthesky

9:56 am on Feb 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Thought this is helpful - Yahoo's help page on idexing :

[help.yahoo.com...]

eyeinthesky

1:04 pm on Feb 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hi Tim,

Any idea whether a site with an existing (suspected) Ink penalty will get into the new Yahoo?

Since Yahoo is using a different technology from Ink, will it start from fresh and forget the past?

Thanks for any help.

carlr

3:54 pm on Feb 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Tim, I sent you the website.

PS: I am not pretending that Y! did not respect its contract, and i was aware of these terms when i bought (and renewed) the service for my sites and my client's sites.

My point is that, looking at my stats, i am wondering if Yahoo! Express is worth the money now. I know you pay to get listed in the directory and not for "direct traffic" - but at the end of the day, what you want is traffic, clients and sales.

I have to evaluate the ROI i'm getting with this. From what i am seeing now, i am not convinced It's a good deal now.

badtzmaru

4:04 pm on Feb 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I have the same position with regards to Yahoo Express and Yahoo's PFI. It seems absurd that paying Yahoo $299/yr won't guarantee indexing but paying them $39 every six months will. I mean, for me that's great, that's a couple hundred dollars less a year, but for Yahoo it seems brainless.

goin2travel

6:01 pm on Feb 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Paying for a listing doesnt ensure getting into Yahoo search and neither does paying for a sponsored listing.

I am also p..d off. It's ridiculous that I spend $8000 a year at Yahoo for 2 sites. Both cost $300 a month sponsored listing and my main site no longer shows up in Yahoo search results.

My site is no longer indexed. Its bs.

In comparison crummy sites that I launched years ago, are showing up high.

If anything there should be a mechanism at Yahoo, whether a paid service or not, that gives a webmaster feedback as to why their site is no longer included.

Whats all this secret bs. The same thing goes for google...its totally ridiculous that there isnt a way for them to give you a straight answer. Not everyone is trying to fool the SEs.

spinweb

7:05 pm on Feb 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Tim - I received my notice from Inktomi/ineedhits early this morning that basically said the same thing you did. Thanks.

progex

9:11 pm on Feb 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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So, does anyone have a straight answer as to how to properly get submitted to Yahoo asap?