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tictoc

8:16 am on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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There are many top ways to get listed for Google stated in webmaster world but I cannot seem to find any on listing high in Inktomi/MSN and the new up and coming Yahoo results featuring more Inktomi listings.

makemetop

8:43 am on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)



Try a search for optimising for Inktomi on Google ;)

trillianjedi

9:33 am on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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This is really a google forum - not many people here know about Ink.

There are some good resources on the net though - as suggested, try searching google (ironic isn't it!).

TJ

ukgimp

9:44 am on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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www.searchengineblog.com/columns/optimising_for_inktomi.htm

Courtesy of mmt

chiyo

9:50 am on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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common judgement from here (I think)

usually if you go well on google you go well on ink though PFI clouds the issue on the edges.

better to optimise for pages on ink, and sites on google (that ones from marcia)

apart from that if anybody really has some useful intelligence they are mainly keeping it to themselves.

My own feeling. Yep its useful to opt for ink bit i wouldnt put a large amount of time into it. I'm pretty sure as we see the yahoo new SERPS deliveries rolling out, we will find that the ROI for optimising for Y/Ink for commercial sites will be far less than for Google 2002/3. At every point, Y! will be "encouraging" commercial sites to pay them rather than put their money into SEO.. This will be operationalised in many different ways.

Just seeing "ink" as a replacement for "google" in the yahoo SE, i think is a mistake.

My opinion only, and a pretty unpopular one i feel.

mfishy

11:25 am on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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INK takes "on page" factors, that were long ago abandoned by Google, heavily into account.

I would guess that Yahoo! will incorporate altavista/alltheweb/ink in the future. We have no way of knowing what this wil turn out to be.

onlineleben

11:57 am on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi, we had a very helpful thread back in march 2003 over here [webmasterworld.com]

rcjordan

12:06 pm on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>the ROI for optimising for Y/Ink for commercial sites
>no way of knowing what this wil turn out to be.

Hold your fire, SEO is a waiting game. That said, as mfishy mentions, I'd be thinking about on-page factors.

Mohamed_E

12:19 pm on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I would guess that Yahoo! will incorporate altavista/alltheweb/ink in the future. We have no way of knowing what this wil turn out to be.

I completely agree with mfishy and might go a bit further.

If Yahoo intended to use the current Inktomi they would (IMHO) already have deployed it. This leads me to be almost certain that the Yahoo search engine, when it is deployed, will be different in many ways from all of the existing Yahoo-owned ones.

I do not worry much. I optimize for Google almost exclusively, and seem to be doing quite well in the other SEs.

sidyadav

12:44 pm on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hey , Yahoo is acquiring Inktomi right? Yahoo is also acquiring Overture right?(which includes FAST and AltaVista) What if, Yahoo were planning, to make a mix of database type of search engine, out of their own search engines? And give Good results, that will be Best Of the Web Algo with Inkromi, Good spidering with AltaVista (except for the redirection thing Scooter does) and a Huge database with FAST, wow, three into one, imagine that! It could be the (almost) next Google and on top of that here comes MSNBot...
So I think after about 1-3 years the stats and the main Search engine players will be:
Google
MSN
Yahoo!

3 top Portals , well except for Google but Google is almost-a-portal actually.

Sid

mfishy

12:51 pm on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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<<Hey , Yahoo is acquiring Inktomi right? Yahoo is also acquiring Overture right?>>

Already acquired both.

<<So I think after about 1-3 years the stats and the main Search engine players will be:
Google
MSN
Yahoo! >>

Already are

sidyadav

1:08 pm on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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<<Hey , Yahoo is acquiring Inktomi right? Yahoo is also acquiring Overture right?>>

Already acquired both.

<<So I think after about 1-3 years the stats and the main Search engine players will be:
Google
MSN
Yahoo! >>

Already are


Nope, remember, MSN still hasn't realesed its own technology what is called 'MSNBOT' in the serps yet and so the SERPs are currently a little un-reavelent like others, infact currently it is a META search engine.

Yahoo hasn't fully acquired Overture and Inktomi yet, it still uses Google, if Yahoo uses Google, it can't be major player...
You gotta have your own Technology to be a major player, if anybody could be a major search engine player, why not choose a META search engine in the Players? That searches more than 1 engine? un-like Yahoo searches only google (and is trying to mix with Inktomi)? Because METAs don't have their own database.

And I said the stats of major players that I think will be in 1-3 years (in the future) , I didn't say that Google is currently not a player.

Sid

mfishy

1:20 pm on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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<<Yahoo hasn't fully acquired Overture >>

How so?

Dow Jones Business News:
Yahoo! And Overture Announce Completion Of Acquisition; Overture Becomes A Wholly-Owned Unit Of Yahoo!

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I would say a completion of an ACQUISITION would mean they have acquired them :)

Maybe it's just a matter of the language that you are using. Yahoo! has, indeed acquired both INK and Overture.

If you are speaking about how they are going to use them, that is a differnt story

sidyadav

1:30 pm on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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ye, but still, Until it does something with them, its not a Major player...

tictoc

8:10 pm on Oct 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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thanks for the input