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Yahoo banning web postion gold searches?

I can't do a search on Yahoo

         

janekat

2:31 am on Oct 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I know google bans automatic searches (or does sometimes) but I couldn't do a search on yahoo. Them when I tried to do a manual search I couldn't even do that. I know google does that sort of thing but never heard of yahoo doing it.....

Anyone know anything about this?

crash

2:50 am on Oct 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Google bans anything that stresses it's servers...

never heard of Yahoo doing it tho.. are you sure it wasn't just an error of some sort?

Brett_Tabke

6:15 am on Oct 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Ya, yahoo will do it occasionally too for really excessive stuff (10k+ a day).

markd

10:46 am on Oct 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Had no problem with WPG/Yahoo last week.

Although it's my favoured tool, I NEVER use WPG for Google direct - it's just not worth the chance of being penalised.

precious

2:10 pm on Oct 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I just got the update for the knowledge base and search engines listed in WPG and it does not even list Yahoo any more.

2_much

11:36 pm on Oct 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Could Google be passing on the "ban" to Yahoo?

markd

7:48 am on Oct 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I've just downloaded 2.00.3 and it is showing 'Yahoo Directory' and 'Yahoo Web Matches' on the Reporter options.

Personally, I never use any automated tools for submissions, so I didn't look to see if Yahoo is still even an option on the Submitter.

fathom

8:08 am on Oct 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Automated searches saves you nothing.

You need to think that all search engines and directories consider the user's queries are more important than "seeing how well you rank".

So should you... when your banned -- ranks are bad really!

janekat

3:47 am on Oct 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I tried it again with just a few words and got no results back. I'm giving up on doing yahoo. I try to do the searches late at night from 11 pm on and thought that that wouldn't annoy them as much. It's not worth getting banned.

Unfortunately I have to do the searches for clients so I don't have much of a choice. Maybe I'll try to only have it done on a bi-monthly basis.

fathom

5:07 am on Oct 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I tried it again with just a few words and got no results back. I'm giving up on doing yahoo. I try to do the searches late at night from 11 pm on and thought that that wouldn't annoy them as much. It's not worth getting banned.

Came to the exact same conclusion - a split second after GoogleGuy sugggested "THIS IS BAD!

Unfortunately I have to do the searches for clients so I don't have much of a choice. Maybe I'll try to only have it done on a bi-monthly basis.

Might I suggest, log tracking software.

First - it's real bonified data, (not - look "you're #1 for red cows with widgets on their tails") but actual results from work you have done.

Second - Passively targets search engines and directories

Third - substantially more information for the client, with much more value. (sir - your site targets visitors strickly in the US, but you currently have 20 x more visitors connecting from Canada, x 10 more visitors, from Mexico.

Even though you are ranked extremely well on >> red widgets << in Yahoo, almost all of your visitors are coming from Google on the keyphrase >>household devices<< and >>homemade tools<<.

Your most successful web page is www.domain.com/directory/file.html with 8 x the daily traffic as your mainpage (2nd) - maybe you should place a discount package "link" there.

I also noticed that (all new and COOL Page) is receiving nothing but 408 errors, the 2 Mb Flash file that automatically loads and tries to appear is also the single greatest exit page on your web site.

With more expensive log software - oh and BTW in the US (remembering the campaign in New York State) all of your inbound IP addresses resolve to Florida.

You have a two large traffic corridors from page1 to page10, and page2 to page 17, however, all of these pages require 10 clicks to get close to the buy button, maybe we should think about adding some product buttons in there.

All in all, it's a good thing that your client isn't concerned with automatic rank checking now, since he is actually learning how to make his web site better.

Fathom

skibum

3:30 pm on Nov 8, 2002 (gmt 0)

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The version of the software may just need to be updated.

As long as ranking reports are run infrequently and slow, we've never had a problem. Off hours is good too.

Depending on what engines are included in the mission, there may be lots of duplication between all the different engines that use Google. You could probably just set it to pull results from Earthlink and avoid trouble with AOL, YAHOO!, Google, etc....

rmjvol

4:29 pm on Nov 8, 2002 (gmt 0)

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a split second after GoogleGuy sugggested "THIS IS BAD!

fathom, did GG say this about Y! or are you just referring to his/her regular pointers on don't use auto checkers on G?

rmjvol

fathom

4:55 pm on Nov 8, 2002 (gmt 0)

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GG was referring only to Google itself in the reference thread.

The version of the software may just need to be updated.
As long as ranking reports are run infrequently and slow, we've never had a problem. Off hours is good too.

Depending on what engines are included in the mission, there may be lots of duplication between all the different engines that use Google. You could probably just set it to pull results from Earthlink and avoid trouble with AOL, YAHOO!, Google, etc....

Regardless of references, use at your own risk IMHO.

The above quote is a little like...

"I stuff keywords... but only a little"

Personally for me I have 4 grand of useless software... the risk of banning is much more than that.