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LookSmart Reports Record Fourth Quarter Earnings

And Achieves Net Profitability

         

grnidone

12:41 am on Feb 1, 2003 (gmt 0)



According to this press release, [shareholder.com] Looksmart grew 65%.

This is the first quarter of
GAAP profitability in the Company's history. This compares to a net loss
of ($11.1) million, which includes an asset impairment charge of $4.1
million, or ($0.12) per share for the fourth quarter 2001, and a net
loss of ($0.5) million or ($0.00) per share for the third quarter 2002.

I had all but written Looksmart off as a real competitor in the search market and am really surprised to see them turning a profit.

Another press release states Looksmart is adding two bankers to the board [shareholder.com]...not typically the types you'd think of on a search company.

jeremy goodrich

12:56 am on Feb 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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:) I think we had a post about this the other day...

theposter

6:27 am on Feb 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Huh, apparantly they charge you for clicks you never recieve...small wonder they turn profitable.

Tor

2:49 pm on Feb 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I was convinced that LS had lost a lot of paying clients during the second part of 2002. It surprises me a lot to see that they are in positive financial territory already in 2002.

mayor

3:35 pm on Feb 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Anyone know about what % of their revenue comes from Microsoft, and how secure that chunk of business is for them?

skibum

3:59 pm on Feb 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Without MSN, there probably is no LookSmart. With Overture reporting "price per introduction" (CPC) of $0.36 [corporate-ir.net], Looksmart may start to move in that direction and squeeze advertisers for ever more cash.

newriver

5:58 pm on Feb 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I would have to disagree with that notion. Looksmart obviously went through a PR nightmare with the release of their current business model. I don't see them increasing the 15 cent price anytime too soon.

I am glad to see them turning a profit, not only because I like the traffic I get from Looksmart through MSN at the rate I am paying, but also because it is important to see a search company maintaining profitability. My business is based on searching, and if no companies can do this profitably, eventually I would be out of business.

jeremy goodrich

6:01 pm on Feb 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Good point, skibum. Why doesn't MSN drop Looksmart, and go with straight Overture? They would stand to make a good deal more money...even if they were getting 50%, that's above the 50% of .15 as it stands now...even if they are getting *all* the looksmart revenue, and half the overture, Overture would make them more cash in the end.

So why haven't they switched?

NFFC

6:15 pm on Feb 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>what % of their revenue comes from Microsoft,

Revenues from the licensing portion of our agreement with Microsoft accounted for substantially all of our licensing revenues in the quarter ended September 30, 2002....

...Also, Microsoft accounted for more than half of our total paid clicks and listings revenues in the quarter ended September 30, 2002.

sec.gov [sec.gov]

Zapatista

6:26 pm on Feb 3, 2003 (gmt 0)



They made that profit by betraying webmasters.

It's dirty money. Like drug money.

This is bad news as other "entities" will see this and dollar signs as well, copy, - all the expense of you and me.

Napoleon

6:35 pm on Feb 3, 2003 (gmt 0)



>> I am glad to see them turning a profit <<

There can't be many like you. If I hate any SE it's Looksmart. They are simply the lowest of the low.... no ethics, morality or integrity.

One day they will meet their just deserts, and I for one will be delighted.

>> It's dirty money. Like drug money. <<

Absolutely right. Ill gotten gains. I hope they choke on 'em.

Zapatista

8:01 pm on Feb 3, 2003 (gmt 0)



Amen brother Napolean. Ye Speaketh the truth according to the gospel of Webmaster Ethics, chapter 2, verse 7-9.

THey may have made a profit but they have always been an incredibly insignificant factor in my traffic. And without MSN, not even a blip on my radar screen.

As long as former SEO turned "PPC Consultants" are around, incoming site owners will be sold on them. My free listing runs out December, 2003. No renewal here.

Does anyone have info on that $18 million class action lawsuit filed last year against the Rosenburgs of the search world?

HyperGeek

8:28 pm on Feb 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Look$mart can brag all they want about "increasing earnings" - but when it comes down to it, the only thing they increased was the ire and complete disgust of many people who would have otherwise used their listings services along with discussing their services with friends, family, and peers.

They get none of this from me, or the companies I work for.

Look$mart may have found a few dollars in forcing their clients to switch to those fraudulantly tracked Small Business listings - but they will find themselves on the unemployment line as soon as MSN decides to cut out the middle man.

Without MSN listings, Look$mart is complete garbage...worthless.

Napoleon

9:15 pm on Feb 3, 2003 (gmt 0)



Are you reading this Look$mart? The answer is probably yes - for anyone unaware they do sneak on here under cover of various aliases and false names. Yes, they also have the nerve to post favorable things about themselves. Let's face it, no-one else would!

I know... that sort of behaviour is no more than you would expect from them. Nothing is too low.

It does seem from reading this thread though that a truth is always a truth. The nature of L$ is very widely known, and WON'T be forgotten.

scareduck

11:21 pm on Feb 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I would like to hear from those people who dislike Looksmart what specific complaints they have.

lgn

1:26 am on Feb 4, 2003 (gmt 0)



I never got the change in business model letter
from looksmart. Never gave them a dime after the
intitial listing years ago, and im still ranked
#1 on looksmart for my favorite keywords.

Im keeping my fingers cross.

Zapatista

4:53 am on Feb 4, 2003 (gmt 0)



"I would like to hear from those people who dislike Looksmart what specific complaints they have."

As if it needs to be said again...Do you work for them or something?

Once upon a time their FAQ said the $199 charge is the only fee a webmaster would have to pay to be in the directory, once accepted.

$199 and no renewal fees, I was sold.

Of course, they also said they could change the rules anytime they want.

You can't have it both ways.

"You pay us this money and we'll give you a widget you can keep forever but the rules of purchase say we can come and take our widget back anytime we want."

=?

LookSmart is in complete self-denial that they betrayed webmasters. Complete self denial.

If LookSmart is convinced they did nothing wrong then they can hold a "LookSmart Vote of Confidence" poll with webmasters. Hey, they did nothing wrong, so they should be confident of the potential results.

They succeeded in building up their directory and gaining some respect on the internet and then cashed in on it out of greed. If they had started with this current ppc business model years ago when they started they would have failed magnificently. Look at all the ppc wannabe engines there are.

No, they set webmasters up and then ambushed us.

Some argue they had to make a profit. Well, holy Toledo why didn't the hotshot punk execs realize in the beginning that their old business model wasn't going to make a profit. In otherwords, they should have seen that when they started.

When they switched to ppc they admitted to the world they were stupid.

I don't want to do business with a stupid, backstabing directory that just doesn't give me enough traffic to make or break my business.

Amen

skibum

6:15 am on Feb 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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They would stand to make a good deal more money...even if they were getting 50%, that's above the 50% of .15 as it stands now...

Yes and no. The small biz listings are $0.15/click but when it comes to the big business bulk programs they charge $0.25 give or take little. MSN would still make more if they just syndicated OV results but there average CPC for the paid clicks is definitely higher than $0.15.

For some of the listings presumably deemed "essential to relevance" they put an affiliate link in the listing if a program exists. Those listings seem to get pretty good placement in the results.:)

It's not out of the question to have a proposal from LookSmart and one of their resellers on the the table for the same bulk listing account at the same time. It's wild.

Napoleon

7:57 am on Feb 4, 2003 (gmt 0)



>> Some argue they had to make a profit... <<

Yes I remember that. Hmmm... so it's OK to do what you want because you want to make a profit? Think I'll go and rob a bank or mug an old lady then.

What they did was low and dispicable in EVERY sense. They even followed this outrage up with a series of insulting emails telling us we had been 'upgraded'. Back to the old lady... I'll add insult to injury by telling her its for her own good as I steal her purse.

Just remember - dogs don't change their spots.