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2:41 pm on Jun 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I run a smallish forum (pr4) that has fallen prey to spam user registrations lately.

I was busy cleaning out the spam when I noticed that someone else is trying to duplicate what was done. this could become a huge problem for all us white hats, any of you guys seen the same thing?

6:22 pm on July 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

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If pagerank were being caculated correctly would these spam pages even be a problem?.
7:24 pm on July 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Aks for

klimaxanlage

click on supplemental results

176 results spam only

10:48 pm on July 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

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>>Do a search on your domain name with the quote mark and half of the list that shows up is an spam .info domain.

I see that too. A domain created less than a month ago too. I have to give them a hand, they've pretty much beaten Google.

11:18 pm on July 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

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THAT'S the guy I was talking about in

[webmasterworld.com...]

!

His network must be *really* huge!

5:09 am on July 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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THAT'S the guy I was talking about in
[webmasterworld.com...]

!

But it seems Google reacts.

The number of "klimaxanlage" has fallen from 176 to 94 over night.

When I would be Google, I would simple throw out all .info domains registered on June 27th 2006 as a first counter strike.

I do not understand the business model of this spam network. No advertising, only linking to other spam natwork sites.

Registering several 1000 domains is an investment in the $10.000 range.

I checked with several other domain names. I did not find one domain name not in the spam network.

Let's assume the creation of one spam page takes 1 second computing time.

5 billion pages would be 150 computer years or an electric bill with 150.000 kWh. Even the electric bill for generating the spam network would be with European electric power prices $30.000.

I assume this must be several hundred computers generating this network.

5:39 am on July 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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spam is all over the place with google.
It's not just this 5 billion page #*$!.
Google company is trying to figure where spam comes from and they are OK with dropping so called white hat sites in their process. Google is now traded in the whole stock trade. Search results on google are re-valuded based on MONEY.
Google now has many owners just like Yahoo or even MSN. Google is now figuring sites based on income not your page design.?
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One might think that there could be some interesting characters who are well financed behind this.

A Government

A competing search engine trying to destroy google

A criminal group.

A terrorist financing group.

Or any other large group that those who think in terms of conspiracy may come up with.

When google called this an arms race maybe they were not really considering little guys but some big boys who are trying to outgun each other.

We may just be spectators who are being collaterally damaged.

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Not even close gimp.
6:01 am on July 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I have sites that are big money makers. No longer do I rank for 1 and 2 word keywords. 3 keywords and longer still give me #1 results. I know google is now working with investors that's it.
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Five days ago I complained to his hosting company which is based in Germany, the guy's name is Jan Sawicki, I had an intense email exchange with this guy, it's simply unbelievable how shameless these spammers are. Hopefully the hosting company will shut him down on Monday - the spammer only replied:

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If you continue your actions i will just switch my hosting company to another located for example in US and/or randomize the text on my pages. The will still push
you out of first positions in google but you would't be able to do anything about that.
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8:32 am on July 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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This is yet another good reason for Google to crack down on Adsense spam. This spammer copied - and then masterfully cloaked - my sites home page. It's showing up on dozens of these garbage .info domains. And, of course, all these pages are running Adsense.

If only Adsense would actually pay attention to who is in their network much of this spam would be gone - or hasn't google figured that out yet?

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Well.. they are all gone, those .info spam domains. At least those that is scrapping my site.

The speed at which these spam domains are removed makes me worry about posting too much here.

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The number of "klimaxanlage" has fallen from 176 to 94 over night.

Well, thats a very interesting word to google. one result, but all in german. look at the translation of it in english and he seems to have copied a google search layout.

8:26 pm on July 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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How can you check if your site has been copied anyway?
7:21 am on July 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Correctly spelled the word should read "Klimaanlage" without x.
11:03 am on July 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Most phpBB forums are set up to show the web address of all registered members on a forum.

There's multiple ways to eliminate spammer registrations from a phpbb forum. As mentioned by a poster above change the forms to confuse the bots.

There's a mod that specifically adresses the website submission. It eliminates the website field from the registration form. Which will only become accessible after the user posts x amount, depending on what you want. Additionally since most bots submit the website field it can also automatically reject the submission if the website field is posted with the registration or even auto ban the IP. I'd post the link but am not sure about the rules regarding that...

Changing the forms also works well, between that and the removing the website filed I've eliminated about 99% of the spam registrants... it's not perfect though I still get a few that make it through. The key is layers of protection that doesn't interfere with the users, both of those methods are invisible to the user.

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