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Loads of Supplemental and the titles are all corrupt

Seems to be ignoring the </title> tag

         

Sense_able

2:18 am on Jun 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I have had loads of new pages indexed this evening however. Yes they are all supplemental ( No surprises there)

BUT the titles are all wrong instead of stopping at the </title> tag the results are showing some of the text from the page in the title of the result.

Anyone else seeing this on their newly added supplementals?

smokeybarnable

1:12 pm on Jun 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Titles seem fixed this morning but text from my horizontal menu is still listed in all my supplemental results.

netmeg

3:02 pm on Jun 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Two connections here provide two totally different results to the site: command and very different SERPS on a few chosen keywords, but in both cases, the titles are still corrupt, and the ignoring of unique descriptions have caused most pages to go supplemental. Looks like they're 72.14.207.104 and 72.14.203.104.

malachite

3:36 pm on Jun 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Several DCs showing the overall site description instead of totally unique page descriptions; others only showing stuff like "<< Start < Prev 1 Next > End >>. Results 1 - 3 of 3. Widgets ( 1 items ) ...," and some DCs showing the proper page descriptions.

Interestingly, the DCs showing the proper page descriptions are cached from around a year ago. Those which aren't showing the titles they should are the ones most recently cached - May 2006.

Many pages still supplemental on all DCs I've checked, and this is for sites which vary in age from 5 years to two years :(

Sense_able

12:19 pm on Jun 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Things are definatly broken when a bot cannot read the </title> tag.

Today I am seeing hundreds of Suplimental pages with the content of the top of the page in the index title.

leadegroot

12:55 pm on Jun 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I think this is Google trying to be 'helpful'
One of the reasons sites go supplemental is a bad title. (Yes, I know it takes more than that) So, I think this is Google over generalising and saying 'well, if its supplemental it must have a useless title - the odds are that the first line of content is better. We'll use that instead for supps'.
$DIETY, but I hope I am wrong and its a bug they will fix... :(

budgie

3:01 pm on Jun 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Don't know if anyone else is getting this, but just entering our company name returns our homepage as normal, but instead of the whole title tag, only the company name is shown ie. search for "My Company" would normally return the title "Buy great things from My Company", but now it just returns a title of "My Company". Same thing happens if I search for "www.mycompany.com". The title tag remains as normal for other non-name searches.

I actually don't mind this as it almost like being able to specify keywords in the search results, but it will be interesting to see if this spreads to other titles as well.

g1smd

10:03 pm on Jun 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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That might be the title as lifted from the ODP?

budgie

9:02 am on Jun 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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That might be the title as lifted from the ODP?

Yes it is, thanks, I've just seen another thread mentioning this. Looks like it's changed back to the original title again now.

graeme_p

10:20 am on Jun 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I have had two strange things happen on one site (my best, of course).

The number of pages indexed has gone up and down. Recently the total number of pages indexed (as shown when using site:) has been fairly stable, but the number of pages in the main index has gone up and down - Falling sharply after March, then going up again, then falling again, and now slowly growing again.

The supplemental index also shows some behaviour that is different. For example when doing a site: search it shows a navbar as the first part of the page snippet, the pages in the main index do not.

zeus

12:05 pm on Jun 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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same here I also see different title in google serps, instead of title from meta. Also a lot of supplemental results, with time it realy looks like your site must 100% different content on each page, which means if you use "and" on all pages you will get supplemental. Im realy getting tied of googles bugs and failure to fix there serps, its a shame no other SE does have such a power, I realy hope MSN will be a big player soon and maybe a third one like, hmm wisenut.

I think all there troubles has ALSO something to do with that they dont have the space for more data, thats also why we see a page get supplemental as soon it just have a few words in the row on each page, thats also why we see the omitted results so quick and we can see more then a 1000 page per site.

This clearly indicated they dont have the space for all there data files.

netmeg

4:05 pm on Jun 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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As of this morning, some of my sites are still afflicted with corrupt titles - and the fact that the titles are munged and the descriptions ignored means that most of them have gone mostly supplemental. I hope they're planning to fix this soon.

malachite

6:29 pm on Jun 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Three DCs I checked (the two netmeg mentioned, plus 64.233.161.104) today are showing the date Google cached the page instead of the page title - mostly 2005 :(

g1smd

8:23 pm on Jun 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Google has several experiments with titles and snippets going on.

If you look at several different datacentres, each by direct IP access, you will see them experimenting.

Try a few from each of the 64 and 66 and 72 and 216 blocks.

BillyS

1:40 pm on Jun 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I've got one of those "me too" statements also.

I've got around 225 of those to be found using

site:www.domain.com -inurl:www.domain.com

They're split pretty evenly between currupted titles and 301 redirects to add a backslash.

Google is seemingly riddled with bugs right now.

Dayo_UK

1:53 pm on Jun 22, 2006 (gmt 0)



I just wish we could get confirmation from Google they are working on things like:-

  • These Corrupt Supplemental listing.

  • Index coverage - whereby sites have been reduced to homepages or very few pages + supplementals.

  • Canonical issues which remain - despite this being one of the priorities of Big Daddy.
  • dmje

    6:49 am on Jun 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

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    I hope I have just gone stone nuts and it's not true, but it appears to me that whatever is going on with titles and the like is spreading to MSN and Yahoo.

    I just checked the same page on MSN and Yahoo and it is appending the description with text from the body of the page.

    Maybe it is just me but I would have thought that a description like the one below would have been long enough, because I read somewhere (maybe here) that the description needed to be 55 characters long or the search engines would pick up other text from the page...

    Description on page:

    Summer decorating is a wonderful time to lighten up the colors and fabrics in your home.

    Yahoo shows:

    Summer decorating is a wonderful time to lighten up the colors and fabrics ... http://www.example.com. Article Source: http://www.example.com ...

    MSN shows:

    Summer decorating is a wonderful time to lighten up the colors and fabrics in your home ... 15 Summer Decorating Ideas. by: (author name removed)Summer decorating is a wonderful time to lighten up the ...

    I cannot figure out if I have done something wrong on the page in question or if it has always been this way on MSN and Yahoo and I just never noticed.

    Anyone else seeing this?

    Halfdeck

    10:06 am on Jun 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

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    I was probably the one who said 55 but that's a roundabout number for Google. I haven't checked MSN or Yahoo.

    docbird

    12:26 pm on Jun 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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    Tried a few things during past few days, inc better links to forums, adding more unique meta descriptions; and this morning found site:www.domain.com reporting far fewer pages, and seemed the useless supplemental "pages" that had been indexed were gone.

    A few hours later, and total reported has bounced up even higher than it was before; but looking through results, seems things are better, as looks like results listings (including "omitted results") show pages that really exist, with titles ok. Also looks like there are a lot of pages w same meta descriptions, yet not tagged as supplemental. [Inc from my forums, where I haven't figured how to generate unique descriptions.]
    Checking quickly, site:www.domain.com listings looking decent. Hope this is true, and it lasts.

    sem4u

    12:43 pm on Jun 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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    I am seeing a similar supplemental problem with one of my sites. In the title I am getting "Usual title name" + "Navigation alt text1", "Navigation alt text2", etc.
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