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fred_bloggs

6:06 pm on Jun 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi, I get a positional rank of 6 for one my keywords in Google.co.uk but only 54 in Google.com
I have noticed that some of my competitors rate highly in both.
Any pointers please, as to how they may be achieving this?

Thanks

Fred

Brett_Tabke

11:07 am on Jun 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Get your rankings up period - and the local tld will follow.

petehols

11:20 am on Jun 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi

Mine is the other way about a website I deal with ranks number 5 on google.com and page 4 on .co.uk but another site of mine ranks the exact same on both .com and .co.uk more links needed on the first me thinks.

Pete

soapystar

11:21 am on Jun 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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i have watched this too. For a while now it appears that by identifying yourself totally as .co.uk...i.e. with a .co.uk domain hosted in the UK with uk Whois will mean lower rankings on .com...so sites with a .com and hosted outside of the uk are doing better for uk specific searches on .com...

b.t.w..not just on .com but on a number of regional googles...

sunny_kat

11:23 am on Jun 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Thats really based on how local you go to your optimization level.
If you optimize your website locally for UK markets so they would rank faster in co.uk
vice versa

Thoughts?

soapystar

11:47 am on Jun 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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if your site is about city widgets..you are based in the city..hosted in the city..you would expect to not rank lower because of that on .com when someone searches for city widgets...because the not-in-city widget sites doing well on .com still do well in .co.uk..so its hard to logically justify identifying yourself as being in the actual city when doing so means you will loose postion on regional googles..

sunny_kat

11:57 am on Jun 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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My answer is also meant the same part as the last one.

petehols

11:58 am on Jun 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I disagree with a few comments

I have a .co.uk site and it is holding the same positions for keyword searches on both .co.uk and .com

soapystar

11:59 am on Jun 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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are you .co.uk throughout?..i.e. whois..hosting...etc...

angiolo

12:14 pm on Jun 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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> Get your rankings up period - and the local tld will follow.

I have a site in English that ranks fine in google.com choosing English version, but doesn't rank
fine country specific...

I hope that local tld will follow...

What is strange for me is some competitor sites ( in english language 9 rank better on local tld than in google.com.

I think that there are some other factors like hosting, or the "site language" of incoming links..

sunny_kat

12:21 pm on Jun 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Brett,

Can your clarify your statement?

Sunny

petehols

12:35 pm on Jun 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi Soapystar

Yeah who is and hosting also uk

Pete

nicedude

9:50 pm on Jun 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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It's the hosting IP address and your TLD ( .co.uk domain or .com domain), links from UK sites compared to US links will probably be a contributuing factor to.

Something that is also ineteresting, is that your results will also change, if your not top for both, if you use a proxy server to access google results.

So if you are lower on google.co.uk and have a .com with an american IP address ( us hosting ),
using a US proxy in your browser settings, may show that you are even higher than you will ever see not using a proxy.

Also if you have a .com on US hosting you will not be in the "pages from the UK" index when the radio button is selected on google.co.uk.

In your situation I would check to see what US ISP visitors are seeing using a proxy as suggested.

If you do a search on google for proxy lists you will find lists of availble proxies you can use.

nippi

2:28 am on Jun 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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angiolo

You've no specified whether you have a country specific domain or where you site is hosted, which will both affect rankings in country specific gooogle.

I ALWAYS tell my clients to get a country specific domain name, and have no problem getting country specific google rankings and google.com rankings.

Country specific rankings, arrive 6 months before the other, and whatever way you look at it, .com is harder to gain ranings in than country specific google, simple as its more competitive.

angiolo

6:10 am on Jun 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi Nippi!

The site I am referring to has an italian TLD ( .it ) and is hosted in Italy. The site is in English and it ranks a lot better on google.com (english version) than in google.it or google.com italian version.

When I say google.com italian version or english version I refer to this code on the search bar:

search?hl=en
search?hl=it

Usually from Italy the default is search?hl=it.
Sometimes I have to edit it manually (to convert to en ) to check my ranking in USA......

 

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