Datacenter Watch:2006-06-05

[Komodo_Tale]

< continued from: [webmasterworld.com...] >

As we enter into a new datacenter thread, the new(er)Goog-licious results are showing on

64.233.167.104
64.233.167.147
64.233.167.99
64.233.179.104
64.233.179.107
64.233.179.99
64.233.187.99
64.233.187.104
64.233.187.107

These results are also being fed to select partners, such as Comcast, who show Google provided results.

[edited by: tedster at 1:16 am (utc) on June 15, 2006]

[Tomseys]

im doing about the same

these are just better sites - lots of dead on target information rich sites - I guess in another serp algo maybe they are seen as spam

[ulysee]

Tomseys in "my sector" for the past five months there has been something consistent - For
Hundreds of search terms, 80 - 90% of the sites ranked from 1-1000 are redirects, 404's, mostly BH's, so no change in my sector.

[steveb]

"No SERPS can, be definition be better. It can only be better for those going up..."

By definition, judging serps by how you rank is nonsensical waste of time. By definition, serps only get better or worse, regardless of how you rank. So maybe we can keep the "I love/hate these serps because I rank better/worse" silliness out of the thread.

[bumpaw]

Question for experienced watchers?
The MCDAR tool for site:www.mydomain.com gives me 480 supplementals in every result for every DC, but yet my default Google search page gives me 3 indexed pages for the past three weeks. I can't tell which DC it's from, but I would like to know why the difference?

[MLHmptn]

Well we are now seeing 72.14.203's showing the new results. Stay tuned.

Or scratch that idea....McDar's is fooling me.

[edited by: MLHmptn at 3:43 am (utc) on June 7, 2006]

[colin_h]

Morning all :-)

Does anyone know of any online research into search engine users thoughts about whether the serps seem more relavent these days or not?

All the Best

Col :-)

[wanderingmind]

I have started losing pages from a site with more than 1000 pages.. nicely and slowly, a few 50 pages a day... I dont suppose this has anything to do with whatever is happening on the DCs, right?

[toothake]

"judging serps by how you rank is nonsensical waste of time"
I agree 100% ,Google is on a huge update the last 6 months since the begining of Big Daddy ,there are millions of pages out there that used to have problems with 302 hidjack ,www versus non www ,"dublicate" content ,and many other issues ,as a result they hade lost PR and have been penalised ,now many af those sites have resolved those issues and are out there waiting with millions of pages indexed (without PR yet though those pages used to have PR of any scale from 1-7,8),what will it be happen after those pages that have resolved there issues will get there old PR and historical position on the SERPS? Does anyone here thinks that the SERPS you watch every day will be the same? I tell you not.Another issue is that many link farms have been deindexed as well with millions of spam links pages that shows only one think ,pages with natural and very old one way links will survive while other that for years have gain top positions due to heavy link exchange will get hit as that is natural if they going to loose thousands of back links due to the deindexed links or directories as mention before ,that is why Data center watching has nothing to do with a subjective point of view as about rankings ,as long as there is not any back link update don't expect to see great changes.Many will probably say that a backlink or page rank update has nothing to do with the SERPS I say yes it use to be so in the past but now we are dealing with Big Daddy and one of the priorities of Big Daddy was and it is to fight spam that is why you see pages dropping ,reindexing and indexing .This time after the guys at the plex press the Back link update button things will be deferend .And I am not out of topic.

[MLHmptn]

New results are spreading now to 64.233.183's, 216.239.53's, 216.239.63's, 216.239.57's, 66.102.7's,. I'd bet within a week we will be seeing the new results Google wide! Fingers crossed! X~

72.14.203's seem to have reverted back :(

[edited by: MLHmptn at 6:51 am (utc) on June 7, 2006]

[Keypoint]

rankpulse.com is a nice tool to see yesterday activities - daily fluctuations.

[MLHmptn]

Something is definitely up! Every DC is flip flopping the results! Are we on the heel of an update right now?!

[Brian]

Back to this use of ODP descriptions junk.

[petehall]

This must be it now... finally.

Faith in Google restored, thanks.

[whitenight]

Faith restored?

Big Daddy was a major fubar and they are just NOW getting things back to respectability
(if this sticks).

Let us not forget that so easily. I have a feeling it might happen again.

[petehall]

Fair enough, I may be jumping the gun yet....

Myself and MLHmptn have been watching this set of results for months, which feels like an eternity so I'm quite excited at the moment.

I see the update on the following DCs:
66.102.7.147
64.233.167.99
64.233.167.104
64.233.167.147
64.233.179.99
64.233.179.104
64.233.179.107
64.233.183.99
64.233.183.104
64.233.183.107
64.233.187.99
64.233.187.104
216.239.59.99
216.239.59.104
216.239.59.107
216.239.59.147

[toothake]

"I see the update on the following DCs: "
Don't you realise that it is not an update ,just another set of testing that is ,all ODP listed sites have the stuped ODP description and title ,do you really think that Google will keep ODP descriptions and titles on well established pages.

[petehall]

Looks like an update to me - not doing so well on it?

Unless you work for Google toothake you can't really say whether it's an update or not.

Myself and a few others 'think' this is an update.

Also, I am not getting DMOZ titles for what it's worth.

[tebrino]

Nothing special about this "update", same old spam reshuffled...

[toothake]

petehall
I'm doin well overall ,but the update will be after a major backlink and PR update ,that,s all fox.Enjoy the summer go out for a beer and stop waste your time at Mcdar.

[MLHmptn]

Update or no update this movement would be huge for a lot of us! BD was implemented DC wide at end of march...Google update could surely be a possibility with the first tweak of the new BD infrastructure.

Pete...

To add to your list...

216.239.57.99 concrete
216.239.57.104 concrete
216.239.57.107 concrete
216.239.57.147 concrete
66.102.7.99 flip flopping
66.102.7.107 flip flopping

Also notice that McDar's doesn't show these DC's with the new results. Check them out manually though and you will see the new results on them as well.

And who said update anyway?! All I said was are we on the heels of an update?! Some decent movement on SERP's and it could surely be called the first BD update!

Also for whats its worth....DMOZ titles?! I'm not seeing them either.

[lgn1]

Im finally seeing these results on 18 datacenters. Several weeks ago, we were up to 33 datacenters changed, before everything crashed.

Hopefully, this is for real this time, but I have had my hopes dashed before.

[Hissingsid]

Hi MLHmptn,

The ones you list don't look the same to me as the ones PeteHall listed.

If this rolls out I'll be very pleased I didn't spend time making major changes ;)

Sid

[avalanche101]

There seems to a lot of jumping around in:
allinanchor: allintitle: allintext: allinurl:
searches.
Hopefully a sign of something good to come, ever the optimist!

[phpdude]

Once again, I hope the datacenters being reported DO NOT stick.

For what I'm watching, they have turned the site wide filter knob way down so that those who have gone out and spend tons of mony on SW's are heaviliy rewarded.

Don't do it Google, those results suck and have fixed nothing!

I've seen these results before a few times and they always seem to go away.

I don't think they will be the final of whatever it is they are doing.

[Petra Kaiser]

These DC’s are ridiculous 216.239.59.99 shows 7 of our print-pages with cache-date of the time they were released, have titles, description and show as supplement results.
All links to these pages are marked rel=nofollow and the pages have a meta tag noindex,nofollow in the cache. This is unbelievable.

[avalanche101]

May have this completely wrong, but the results in a lot of ways look like the results immediately after BD took affect.

[broker_boy]

I concur look similar to BD launch serps to me too

Cheers,

BB

[SpanishWeb]

Ridiculous commentst: "Forget these DCs, they will not go up".

The unique interesting thing for me is: What's google testing? / what changes? / When google will change all and how?

This time, i think this can be a real change.
*I hope that.

[avalanche101]

I think there is something of substance going on here, I haven't seen the allinanchor: allintitle: allintext: allinurl: search results flap around so much since BD started.
So I'm wondering if there is a back link calculation going on?

[dataguy]

I don't really see a pattern to the updated DC's. My guess is that there are ranking problems that are tied to the site:hyphen issue, and fixing that issue is not a matter of turning some of the knobs, it's a matter of updating the 'infrustructure' that we've talked so much about with BigDaddy. I don't think this follows the pattern of an algo tweak. As such, it will probably be rolled out kind of like BigDaddy was, though much faster.

Just my $.02