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The answer - artificial intelligence - with search engines so powerful they would understand "everything in the world". It's the dream of Larry Page - one of Google's founders and now a multi-billionaire.
[channel4.com...]
I found this worth going through. Interesting to see the Google "heads of state" in a Q&A session.
Somehow on par with Stephen Hawkings claim he would find the formula for everything etc..
The problem with everything is that everything is everything and then you need some superior power to understand everything and since we live in the a 4 dimensional universe, until you calculated everything in 3D, 4D has changed
.. Well maybe Google God is been rolled out, who knows .. :)
cabbie:
When larry and his cronies cannot figure that when domains like openfamily.org and parenthoodcouncil.com start ranking for pron keywords that there might be something wrong..
That's just trust "spam" rank being put into action.
The section in the report which mentions it, is a bit out of context.
I think he was asked for the ideal SE.
Google founder dreams of Google implant in your brain [theregister.co.uk]
t's not the first time Larry Page has said some wacked out yet scary things.
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." - George Bernard Shaw
Hehe...People other people view as normal rarely ever achieve great things.
People other people view as normal rarely ever achieve great things.
I agree that unusual views make great people, but what worries me is that Larry Page seems to have a very idealistic view of the world. What worries me is that they could do this and never see the bad side of what they do, or as in the case of privacy issues, safety and search engines that catalog EVERYTHING, the damage is seen as "acceptable losses".
It's kind of like splitting the atom. Einstein came up with the theory of relativity (instramental in the creation of the atom bomb) thinking unlimited energy not weapons of mass destruction. Someone else took his idealistic idea and made it into something darker.
Genius is a dangerous thing in the wrong hands. Geniuses really need to think hard before creating what they imagine to be eutopias and yet they rarely do.
who would agree to have a brain implant of some... chip or whatever
Genius is a dangerous thing in the wrong hands. Geniuses really need to think hard before creating what they imagine to be eutopias and yet they rarely do.
I think the genius was the investor at the time. The backlinking idea was out before.
Well to be fair if you listen to the whole thing [Listen to whole Q&A], I haven't even heard this claim.
That's right. The snippet off the Channel 4 site is not really in context. Need to actually sit through the Q&A video to really get some inkling into what is happening in the Google nerve centre.
"everything is what Sergey says is everything."
like the evil thing.
I think this is why you see Eric chaperoning the boys in public settings, they really do say some weird things.
they really do say some weird things.
There really is a fine line between genius and what other people view as insanity. Personally, I really admire people like Sergey and Larry.
Really smart people often do and say things that are unconventional because they think for themselves and are not heavily influenced by conventional wisdom or by what others do and say.
Ideas like the earth moving around the sun, microscopic germs causing diseases, the earth being round, and people building flying machines were all ridiculed initially by the current "experts" of the day.
Has it really changed into we want a monster that understands it all?
Well imo they should get down and read the book where the answer really lies. What was the question again? 21 x 2 = .. ah yes
Could this be one of those "time to go back to the drawing board" and create plan "B"?
The problem with everything is that everything is everything and then you need some superior power to understand everything
Ah, Godel's theorem restated... Or, no system can contain its own definition.
Unless one subscribes to some chaos theorists who would suggest that the whole can absolutely be greater than the sum of its parts. Will AI arise spontaneously out of a complex system? If so, will we recognize it as such?
I rather like the analogy of an ant colony being a sentient being...
WBF
Even Matt is on Vacation - looks somethings weird to me now.
Now we have the answer: google is aiming at completeness. So why are all you guys complaining about inconsitencies in BigDaddy's search results?
with search engines so powerful they would understand "everything in the world"
Yeah, I've always loved science fiction too... how about they try and get their search engine to index and rank sites properly first.
Google has become an enormous self promotional pr stunt.
[edited by: jatar_k at 3:36 pm (utc) on May 25, 2006]
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I think one should not go down the route and follow the illusion that the other SE are that much better in the long run.
Game is called "Distract the prey" (prey being website owners). Nothing more than a PR move.
