Forum Moderators: Robert Charlton & goodroi
Reseller,
Having looked at these dc's in some detail, I have to disagree with you (tho glad you're making a comback!).
Because of major changes to a site I have in the OCT-FEB period, I can pinpoint the vintage of the index quite easily (and confirm the site specific results with others I am familiar with). What I see on these dc's is an index made up of ancient results (circa AUG 2005) with some additions from FEB or so.
If this truly is the result of the carnage of the switch to BD then Google has accomplished nothing in the FEB-15 to current timeframe.
If as you say, Google knows exactly what they're doing, what they are apparently trying to achieve is to augment the AUG-05 index with a few new pages. If you mean Google intended to "break down" the entire index and rebuild it "live" - unlike in the past where more or less finished updates rolled onto all dc's over a 5-7 day period - then I might agree. What I can't see is the reseller frindly ® dc's being anything but yet another interim step. The difference is, I see the process as scambling to try and fix an unanticipated scru-up, you see it as an deliberate plan.
Either way, I'm counting the days until Microsoft rolls out their new product as Google is ripe for the taking ... takes awhile for the public to turn against a SE but there certianly is precedent (remember when you couldn't turn on your TV without seeing ads for Lycos?).
From a webmaster point of view, the ideal world is MSN, Google, Yahoo with 30% market share each.
[edited by: tedster at 10:32 pm (utc) on April 6, 2006]
LOL I really am glad for your recovery, reseller.
However, "the new Shining Google" is mostly the very old, outdated, rusty Google with some of the weirdest, spammiest top 10's I have ever seen.
I can't believe all the chaos, disruption and garbage of the past month was simply to produce this utter #*$!.
If this is really the "the new Shining Google" Big Daddy gonna get stomped by Big Billy when Microsoft rolls out its new search.
>> I see very wierd stuff at [72.14.207.99...] and at [72.14.207.104...] for the last few days. <<
For site:mydomain 41 returns on 1 dc 33 on the other. At least none are supplemental.
On the other DCs about 1,650 returns for site:mydomain. They go supplemental after about the 1st 50. Cache dates as far back as Jan. '05.
When's that going to happen... 2010?
We could be looking back a couple of years from now and comparing Big Daddy to Alta Vista's Black Monday (only at least Alta Vista didn't come up with their own stupid name for the disaster :)
Well, actually, there are anecdotal reports - on here and on various blogs, etc. - of exactly that: non-web professional Google users complaining and switching. But I agree, there is certainly nothing like a revolt; probably not even a ripple.
What HAS changed is open criticism of Google on various industry newsletters, etc. but in the end, this may mean nothing to Google popularity with the public. Takes a long time for an established brand to slip and - as with McDonalds, for example - quality is somewhere way down on the list of factors in that brand loyalty.
On the other hand, the SE world has seen very rapid changes in fortunes over its brief history (tho it has probably never seen a SE giant on the scale of Google fall to oblivion as, while Alta Vista and Lycos both had major market share, they were small in a corporate sense compared to what Google is now).
Still, I think there's blood in the water and the fact Microsoft is renewing its effort to increase SE market share may reflect that.
I haven't been posting of late, but was driven back after the utter chaos and utter trash serps google has been providing. I've had to use other engines just to do my day job sadly.
In all honesty, had I not watched this forum, I would not have been aware of BD, as my site continues to increase its traffic, pages go up in their SERP's positioning, and I see satisfactory SERP's results on the odd occasion I search for something.
So, I guess I'm gonna get the naff comments about not just thinking about my site, and look at the damage to many others, but my point is that it isn't all bad news, and I feel justified in backing Google on this one. They are the best, we all know it, and we know things will only get better.
Criticise me if you want, but I am sure there are many sites doing just fine. If you aren't, I understand your comments, but I feel its time for some positive comment for a change.
I agree. What I am seeing is google is using the data from the early bd. The difference is, everything that was marked supplemental in that first round is now just gone from the index.
Don't know how google arrived at what should BE supplemental as I can find no rhyme or reason on my site.
I had written a number of articles that with the exception of two, appear no where else on the net. All gone now. They are good for my visitors but so far as content to create hits in google and draw people to my site?: poof!
