Google Datacenters Watch 2006-04-06

[bobmark]

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Reseller,

Having looked at these dc's in some detail, I have to disagree with you (tho glad you're making a comback!).

Because of major changes to a site I have in the OCT-FEB period, I can pinpoint the vintage of the index quite easily (and confirm the site specific results with others I am familiar with). What I see on these dc's is an index made up of ancient results (circa AUG 2005) with some additions from FEB or so.

If this truly is the result of the carnage of the switch to BD then Google has accomplished nothing in the FEB-15 to current timeframe.

If as you say, Google knows exactly what they're doing, what they are apparently trying to achieve is to augment the AUG-05 index with a few new pages. If you mean Google intended to "break down" the entire index and rebuild it "live" - unlike in the past where more or less finished updates rolled onto all dc's over a 5-7 day period - then I might agree. What I can't see is the reseller frindly ® dc's being anything but yet another interim step. The difference is, I see the process as scambling to try and fix an unanticipated scru-up, you see it as an deliberate plan.

Either way, I'm counting the days until Microsoft rolls out their new product as Google is ripe for the taking ... takes awhile for the public to turn against a SE but there certianly is precedent (remember when you couldn't turn on your TV without seeing ads for Lycos?).

From a webmaster point of view, the ideal world is MSN, Google, Yahoo with 30% market share each.

[edited by: tedster at 10:32 pm (utc) on April 6, 2006]

[bobmark]

"I agree. What I am seeing is google is using the data from the early bd. The difference is, everything that was marked supplemental in that first round is now just gone from the index."

Exactly, texasville!

Hey Boss! I know how to fix that pesky supplemental problem we been having . . . just dump all those pages from the index. That'll stop those damn webmasters from whining about how their whole site went supplemental!

[RichTC]

The mix im currently seeing includes a number of sites and results that should be in the index that were previously missing but i have to say the serps does look a bit of bodge job.

Perhaps its still half way to being fully updated. The serps certainly look that way anyway imo.

See what next week brings, but it looks like this update is still far from being finished!

[Dayo_UK]

>>>That'll stop those damn webmasters from whining

He he - it will stop some as some people do really hate the whole idea of the supplemental index.

I have been saying for ages that I think the ranking of the serps at the moment is based on old data while the crawling is done by a new bot - which is capable of doing new things - hence a very strange index at the moment.

EG. Normal Googlebot is providing the scoring algorythm - this scoring algo could be said to be taken from early Feb or so at the very very latest if based on last normal Googlebot PR change - but could be the scoring algo that was in place at the time big daddy was first introduced (eg November 2005 ish).

While the new Mozilla Googlebot came in to life Google may well have wanted to have a consitent scoring algo to base it on and the November 2005 ish score may still pretty much control the serps.

Fact remains the Mozilla Googlebot has crawled pages succesfully - and we now can see them get allocated PR - the old Googlebot would have scored lowly (EG. Hijack/Canonical probs) with a PR0 - however, these pages still can not rank for toffee - why? Because Google are still persisting with using an old Scoring method for these pages.

Just my theories which have not changed much through the whole process.

But if Google are still using the old Googlebot scoring factors then as this bot has pretty much retired they have to switch to the Mozilla Googlebot calculated figures soon.

>>>See what next week brings, but it looks like this update is still far from being finished!

Not given up hope that they might pull something out of the hat yet? I agree, next week or two should show us I would have thought.

[petehall]

64.233.187.104 is back and is rather scary if you liked the sandbox concept

:)

[reseller]

petehall

"64.233.187.104 is back and is rather scary if you liked the sandbox concept"

I.e that DCs set has left my friendly DCs after just a short visit to the troops

[64.233.187.99...]
[64.233.187.104...]

Many other things are happening on the DCs though ;-)

[reseller]

Whats going on this evening?

Hi Folks

Have any of you noticed this evening something worth mentioning on these DCs?

I know that they might be different sets of serps, but if you have been watching any of them recently, have you noticed this evening any changes?

[64.233.179.99...]
[64.233.179.104...]

[64.233.185.99...]
[64.233.185.104...]

[64.233.167.99...]
[64.233.167.104...]

[66.102.7.99...]
[66.102.7.104...]

[72.14.207.99...]
[72.14.207.104...]

[216.239.53.99...]
[216.239.53.104...]

[216.239.57.99...]
[216.239.57.104...]

[216.239.59.99...]
[216.239.59.104...]

Or maybe its just me ;-)

Thanks!

[AlexK]

Dayo_UK:

Google are still using the old Googlebot scoring factors ... as this bot has pretty much retired

Wishful thinking, methinks.

It has certainly slowed in April, but no means retired.

PS
I want it to retire! I also want Google to split the M_bot away from the Adsense-bot IPs.

[taps]

reseller: I see some slight changes for my main site. And it is going upwards for some keywords. Pretty nice.

Wishing the best to you and your serps - read you again tomorrow moring with a fresh cup of cappuccino (made by a swiss macchina)

[reseller]

Thanks taps

Yes of course... many fresh cups of cappuccino :-)

[reseller]

Changes on The Reseller Friendly DCs.. This Evening!

Hi Folks

I have noticed some changes of the serps on my gorgeous ladies. However they are still both faithful and friendly to Reseller ;-)

[64.233.171.99...]
[64.233.171.104...]

[64.233.185.99...]
[64.233.185.104...]

[72.14.203.99...]
[72.14.203.104...]

Enjoy