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One thing to watch for: HOURLY fluctuations.
After years long slow advances, my main page reached #13 in Google for the main single KW.
Suddenly it dropped to #16, then 4 hours later it was right back at #13.
Same thing with a 2-word key-phrase. From #2 or #3 I fell back to #6.
4 hours later, like the above, it was right back.
Some of this is data center switching I'm sure.
Then again maybe they use old data while they polish up the new.
All in all, Big Daddy has not hurt my site yet (knock on wood). -Larry
[edited by: tedster at 6:48 pm (utc) on Mar. 6, 2006]
For a variety of reasons Google sometimes takes a snapshot of a page and then stores it in a separate supplemental index, forever.
Google continues to crawl the Internet normally, updating pages completely separate from the snapshot process above.
If your "normal" page is removed/lost/deleted from the regular index, the snapshot page will show in its place. You can't get rid of that snapshot page no matter what. Some folks have lost their normal results, so therefore the snapshot supplementals, that have been lurking in the background for years, now appear instead of the normal pages.
As has been explained above, if this has happened to you, you aren't trying to "get rid" of the supplementals, you can't, you are simply trying to get your normal pages listed again. This could occur in the usual way pages get crawled, or by a box getting kicked at the googleplex, or your "normal" pages could stay out because Google has (in most cases incorrectly) decided they were duplicates or whatever.
I saw this today (cache date january 2005) on the last few remaining pages still labeled as supplemental. So when these pages come back, if they ever go supplemental again, I will should expect to see the january, 2005 cache again, correct?
I saw this today (cache date january 2005) on the last few remaining pages still labeled as supplemental.
Your site is coming out of supplemental hell?
Or is your situation different than most of us here?
Did you do something specific to get your site to start its emergence?
Have others done a specific "keyword phase site:www.mydomain.com" type of search to see if your "good" pages are listed as supplemental?
Mine are along with lots of malformed urls, 404 pages ect.. The only thing is the "good" pages in supplemental also have a cache date of June-Aug
So if - like me - you had your stomach tied up in knots, and were about to do something desperate like modifying your site structure, playing with redirects only to solve supplemental issues.. Now is a bad time to do it, just sit back, relax, let the storm pass, and when things normalize again, you can tune up and fiddle all you want, it's probably best time to build content and work on getting better links, grow new sites, see friends and family .. Just don't obsess.
Who would have ever thought....
And with Big Daddy bound to have a seperate calculation of these figure I wonder if we will have to wait until Big Daddy roll out has been completed first.
Site:abc.com produces a list of pages with all the main prime pages gone - vanished, been swept away. These are PR6 and PR5 pages including the index page
Traffic has fallen off the side of a cliff - to say we are worried about this site is an understatement
Any views anyone on this?
[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 12:25 pm (utc) on Mar. 8, 2006]
[edit reason] no specifics please [/edit]
If i search for a missing page using the page url google shows the page and the cash of it taken 6th March but it doenst rank or show anywhere in the index.
So does this mean the sites F@cked?
I think all we can do is wait....... and wait ...... Personally I think until after Big Daddy has rolled out and then a crawl with this new infastructure - but might be sooner based on GG comments.
Would be intrested in the URL if you are able to sticky to me.
While we are waiting, we are loosing trafic and income. A little more communication from Google on this issue would help us wait with a little more serinity.
Agree, we have no idea how long this is going to take. I thought BD was going live this week?
Thing is what i dont understand is why some sites have been hit and others havent. With us the site was hit after midnight last night.
Looking in my sector a few have been hit hard like this one site but others have avoided it whats that all about.
Also, why has it picked on all the main pages? and left just a few loose pages or are they about to go suplemental also shortly?
This is suplemental hell all right and no one has a clue!
Has anyone experienced supplementals that didn't change anything last year?
All the best
Col :-)
Yes! I had a redesign with new urls at October 2005.
>Anyone see a rollback pre December 27th? I see a major >shift in serps.
Has anyone experienced supplementals that didn't change anything last year? "
Yes About 12 months ago I switched my forum's software from IPB to VB.
Are you seeing a full recovery? I'm not seeing anything.
>Its early in the game, but 100% full recovery.
I beleive that I told frakilk that I would share any updates regarding this as soon as it happened.
frakilk if this sticks, i would assume that you may be seeing it soon.
Sites in the supplemental hell are they likely to return? any clue as to how long?
In our case the supplementals dont rank anywhere bar a few loose pages, low keywords that are showing up. We havent lost all the pages yet just 99% of them so can we expect the last few to go also before/ if things improve?
On other sites in our sector that have been reduced to the index page only i notice they still have some positions in the serps but on old cashed dates so would you agree that once the serps index is updated they will lose those serps positions also.
The only thing that makes me think this isnt just a hit against our site is the number of other sites affected by this suplemental problem but i have to say its worrying to say the least
