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Google Datacenters Watch: 2006-01-30

Observations, Analysis and Remarks

         

johnwards

3:55 pm on Jan 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

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< continued from [webmasterworld.com...] >

This is just odd.

The 64.* DC's return about 300 pages from my site.

The 216.* DC's return about 46,000 pages from my site.

And the 66.* return 69,000 pages from my site.

Currently I have about 65,000 pages.

If I go to google.co.uk I get 46,000 pages. If I go to google.com from my US based server I get the same 46,000 results.

It is all very odd and confusing.

[edited by: tedster at 9:56 pm (utc) on Jan. 30, 2006]

WebFusion

11:38 pm on Feb 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

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ulysee

First time I react on this forum though I watched with great interest ...

I agree 100% with you, Google are playing with us!
We have to do something about it....

R.

Here's an idea....stop relying on free traffic to make a living. Google doesn't owe anyone a thing (and I speak as someone who has had high-profit, 5+ year old site MIA in google for 7 months now).

Not to get this thread too off track, but I learned the hard way (as you should) that relying on free traffic, especially considering the wild-swings even a slight tweak in google's algo can bring, is a sure way to go broke.

As for big-daddy....there seems to be a "few" things fixed in terms of some of our URLs/supplementals, but (I hope) they are far from finished. It will be interesting to see the overall effect on traffic BD has once it's finally installed on all datacenters.

idolw

11:51 pm on Feb 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

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when i look at big daddy results i see two things.
1. linking schemes working beter than ever - just sign up as an affiliate to a merchant that does not 301 to their own page without your affiliate ID and make the internet the worse place thanks to Google :-)
2. if you have a genuine product to sell - do not think about the visitor! just put a list of all products you have to sell on your promoted page and wait. you will be at the top and make the internet a worse place! :-)

once you do it and get your ferrari, write a book and metion my nickname in it :P

Cutts! tell us about these two cases!

2by4

1:29 am on Feb 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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webfusion, not to go offtopic, you've been saying this for a while, and one day it may register in people's heads. Until then you'll just have to keep repeating yourself, it will happen one day, someday.

Personally I still like the game though, I'll take free serps as long as I can get them, just takes more work than most want to put out I think.

back on topic, I still like big daddy, only changes I see in my areas is that my sites rank better now than they did on the first big daddy drafts, almost identical to non big daddy now dc's now from what I can see.

google is an ad company, keep it clear, a media thing. For profit. If you can get them to play nice with your site, great, if not, web fusion is right as far as I'm concerned. If you can't get google to play, see if you can figure out why, some sites do fine, some don't, there are common threads that connect the ones that do and the ones that don't I think.

d_8g

1:31 am on Feb 5, 2006 (gmt 0)



Google-

My God, you have *really* messed up this time... I mean, if I were to report every single site.. I'd be typing until the morning...

Duplicate sites, hidden links, hidden text, same companies with different domains but same content dominating top 10 results... the lot!

I can kind of see what you were trying to do here, but it ain't working. Sorry. Linking schemes now work much better than ever... So much for cross-linking with on-topic sites...

Is there an Undo button you can click? Is there a phone number I can call?

I guess not. I guess those of us that have played fair till now will have to resort to the tactics of those that have just been elevated to positions they wouldn't have dreamt of before.

Let me guess: A few domains, preferably with the keywords in the domain name. Just a few links to them, from about anywhere, just so you find them (PageRank is as good as dead now). Large sites, but that's easy -- let's just recycle other people's content (move a few paragraphs around and stuff). *Definitely* outgoing links to on-topic sites -- how about feeding Yahoo's search results to Google?

Whatever, have fun, it's your Google after all.

Miop

1:49 am on Feb 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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<Duplicate sites, hidden links, hidden text, same companies with different domains but same content dominating top 10 results... the lot!>

Maybe there is some rollback going on...that would explain why some of my 'lost' pages are returning. :(

LogicMan

2:28 am on Feb 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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<Maybe there is some rollback going on.>

Seems so to me.
Dropped pages have reappeared with good TBPR.
Pages that were climbing have reverted back in SERPs and TBPR.
Some caches that were current (new every 2 weeks) are back old date (3 months or more), though some are current (last 4 days).

Maybe bringing in BD datacenters that was using old data for testing proposes and will refresh on the fly.

CainIV

4:53 am on Feb 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I agree aobut a some type of filter being loosened on the BD results as I have moved up in ranking for most of my keywords significantly after bombing out Sept. 22

A couple things I am noticing here that might be worth mentioning:

What Jagger rolled out, it semmed that semantic values were segregated more, ie blue widget sites did not rank as well as before for red widgets.

What I am finding is that there is more semantic spread from what I am seeing my server logs.

I am finding that Google is now placing my static rebuilt pages ahead of dupe dynamic pages in the site: search, and sending the dynamic ones to the back of the line. Since the dynamic pages were not linked from any signifcant page in the static schema, it would seem google on some of my sites is beginning to evaluate which dupe page is more valuable?

colin_h

5:39 am on Feb 5, 2006 (gmt 0)



I never thought that I would say it, but I'm beginning to agree with WebFusion :-o

You simply can't rely on Google for anything ... Free business, good results or even a good investment these days ;-)

Instead of reliving the pain and anguish of the past 12 months, I would advise anyone with the means to build a real business, in the real world, with no reliance upon search engines for trade ... to do so immediately.

Too many of us waited too long last year and wasted our lives doing so. Please learn from our mistakes.

All the Best

Col :-)

optimist

7:15 am on Feb 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Its pretty much the same thing Google has always said. We get equal traffic from Paid Ads (banners & links on highly trafficked related sites) as we get from the SEs.

Crush

9:10 am on Feb 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Stats on one important site :) Now I wish yahoo could readdress the balance

Hits Percent
Google 97982 82.9 % 98447 79.3 %
Yahoo 7820 6.6 % 8141 6.5 %

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