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Google Datacenters Watch: 2006-01-09

Observations, Analysis and Remarks

         

reseller

9:17 am on Jan 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi Folks

All indications are pointing in the direction that we are approaching heavy changes in Google's index infrastructure. Matt has confirmed that several times. As such its of importance at present to keep an eye opened on possible changes on Google's datacenters.

In fact watching and analyzing changes on the DCs of high importance, IMO. Because it tells us much about what do we expect tomorrows serps to look like, and might take actions regarding our sites in good time.

Some of us are addicted DCs Watchers and we do that with passion and there is no doubt about our spirit of sharing our observations with the rest of our kind fellow members . However, we are often blamed of hijacking other threads if we have no place to post our observations and remarks ;-)

For you passionate Google Datacenters Watchers, I'm starting this thread.

Let those observations, analysis and remarks coming.

Thanks!

frakilk

2:32 am on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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300m -
Yes the URLs are long a lot of the time, in fact so long sometimes that they wrap onto a second line.

I really don't understand why these results have propogated if indeed Google is letting spam through. Maybe they are just judging how the public reacts to them.

Vimes

2:37 am on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

I'm seeing PR update on the toolbar on this DC

216.239.57.104

anyone else seeing this. It's been like that for a while now but i haven't seen it shift across.

Vimes.

Oh just found another

216.239.53.99

McMohan

6:32 am on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Vimes,

I am not sure if it is an update or a rollback to the old PR. Few sites it looks like PR has reverted and for Matt's blog, PR is still 7 on those DCs while it was PR0 prior to the update. I am inclined to believe it is an update.

lee_sufc

8:19 am on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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got up this morning to find all fluctuations on DCs have now gone and all Bigdaddy is no longer online

Vimes

8:28 am on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Well what ever it was its gone again now.

I thought it was an update as my homepage was showing Google's directory PR, and newly published pages where showing an increase.

But its gone now.

No where to be seen on any of the dc's i look at anyway.

Vimes.

followgreg

9:40 am on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I saw it too and it was a rollback...(I mean as far as I can tell...)

reseller

9:45 am on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi Folks

Well its back again. Both on

[66.249.93.104...]

and my default google.dk

[66.249.93.99...]

We should be used to by now that BigDaddy DCs going on-off
during the testing period :-)

Have a great day!

Dayo_UK

10:25 am on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)



From the outside looking in it just seems that Google are not making any progress at all.

The cache dates on this DC are clearly wrong - with some newly cached pages showing an older date or no cache at all.

I do think the big thing will happen when the PR (at least internally) is recalculated once G have correctly identified Canonicals and 302,301s etc...........

But as G still have not given up on PR from the last update then this looks a way off. MC said a week or so ago, 1-2 months, cant see it within that time frame personally.

lee_sufc

11:03 am on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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is anyone seeing changes in DCs using mcdar - my site seems to have come back (again) and is now showing on my defauly google (http://216.239.59.104)

this time I wont get so excited and this happened Sunday morning and by Monday night my site was gone again.

one thing I notice is that it's showing an update Cache date again?

300m

11:12 am on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I have see one interesting change live, and on Big Daddy. I submitted a spam report for a page on a term, and my pagewas dropped from its ranking #1 on the 27th. This morning, I see that has not changed, spam is still there, but ranked at #5 is the parent company domain that I work for.

We have a lot of different domains orginal content etc.., but it was an odd thing to see the main website in the top 5 for a term it has never ranked on, but was ranked from another domain we own.

Anyone else have something like that happen?

zeus

11:38 am on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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This is getting realy boring, we are not going any where, there has not been any REAL change for weeks now, nothing is happening, there has been corrections to the non www issue and old hijacker/301 caches are gone, thats great, but please move on.

g1smd

12:07 pm on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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>> there has not been any REAL change for weeks now <<

Matt would be disappointed, but I'll say there has been no change for 18 months now.

None of the sites I work with has changed ranking in all that time, and all the ancient supplemental stuff that we want cleared away is still there.

zeus

12:11 pm on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I dont want to disapoint Matt, because on the test center, I have non supplemental result, non www is gone, the 301 works and the former 302 link caches are gone, so everything is perfect, in solving th bug, BUT still no ranking, PR and they dont stay on google.com, nothing els has happen.

thecityofgold2005

12:12 pm on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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There has been change in the serps I look at but posting here about it is a waste of time.

We can't change anything and the old purpose of threads like this was to talk about Google updates and Google dancing, neither of which happen anymore!

Nowadays we have everflux and different dc's being used simultaneously. Thus Google updating is near continuous.

Unfortunately this is reflected in there having been a 'update' thread running continuously for the past god knows how many months!

Dayo_UK

12:16 pm on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)



It is not a case of being disappointing for MC.

I just not sure at this stage if we are expected to see ranking for the damaged sites.

Personally at this stage it just seems that Google are trying to figure out the correct pages to crawl (specifically homepages) - I really really hope that ranking (PR) is to be added in later - Matt has not really made that clear.

I am getting fed up of searching for titles of my site and getting pages that link to the site - but then again I have been doing it for a year or so.

BillyS

12:39 pm on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Not much to comment on other than "it's here," "it's gone."

I was hoping to see some gradual improvements. But over the last two weeks - Nothing.

followgreg

12:39 pm on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hehe...it's always a bit of fresh air when you hear out that google tries to figure out how to crawl homepages :) anyways...except for this it's little boring yep.

Dayo_UK

12:41 pm on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)



>>>Hehe...it's always a bit of fresh air when you hear out that google tries to figure out how to crawl homepages

Well to be fair if you have had a 302 hijack or canonical problems then this is exactly what you should be looking for on this DC judging by MC comments. Google has had problems with this area for a year or so.

needinfo

1:14 pm on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Test DC now showing March 2005 cached date for one of my homepages and no cached page showing at all for one of my other sites.

zeus

1:39 pm on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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hmm I just looked through my 10 jan stats for the former hijacked/301 and non www hurt site it got 6 hits from google 1 keyword was my former top keyword, so maybe they for a few sec had some kind of ranking, Im not sure here.

Pico_Train

1:55 pm on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Go to [66.102.9.104...]

and search for "Tuberculosis Treatment"

Result 4 is a good one...

BillyS

2:24 pm on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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>>>Result 4 is a good one...

It's got about as much information as result 6... (another page not found). Two out of 10 - what a mess.

Ellio

2:35 pm on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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>>>Result 4 is a good one...
It's got about as much information as result 6... (another page not found). Two out of 10 - what a mess.

But [66.102.9.104...] is not Big Daddy. I did not think we were discussing the default SERPs?

zeus

2:36 pm on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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ellio - we dont, but some are getting bored

Pico_Train

2:55 pm on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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My daddy is Big Daddy

Dayo_UK

2:56 pm on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)



Yep - bored with this.

Starting to think that nothing is going to come of this so called 302/Canonical fix.

GG first mentioned it at the beginning of Jagger on October 20th as part of the Jagger changes - now 11th January and we still see little progress for sites that have been penalized due to this problem.

So 3 months of little movement with Google saying things are in the pipeline.

Hmmmmmmz........it does not look like it is ever going to get fixed.

reseller

3:16 pm on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi Folks

Its too early to give up or draw conclusions. Matt "Inigo" Cutts said to give it 1-2 months.

And not to forget that a PR/Backlink update might already take place in January followed by an algo update sometime in February (a new Allegra maybe?)

Meanwhile keep watching whats happening on the other DCs. Very interesting reshuffling indeed ;-)

Dayo_UK

3:26 pm on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)



>>>> Matt "Inigo" Cutts said to give it 1-2 months.

GG said give Canonical issues 2 weeks or so in October time.

I will eat my hat (gladly it has to be said) if G do fix the problems anytime soon.

NoLimits

3:47 pm on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Bah...

I'm tired of Google... period. I need a break. I'm going to head for Vegas for a week after this weekend to take a breather from all of this SERP stress.

Then I'll come back and play catch up... if things stay as they are I won't have much catching up to do as I still only see < 20 google search referrals per day lately... things can only get better I suppose.

I'd really like to see some positive changes here. Maybe MSN and Y! have a chance. G is showing a large weakness in that they seem incapable of making widespread changes in a timely manner.

texasville

3:54 pm on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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NoLimits-
I think you summed it up fairly well. If stockbrokers were webmasters, I think G would have some real problems.
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