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It seems that what we thought to be testing serps on the test DC [184.108.40.206...] have suddenly today started showing on "defaults" googles, as google.de, google.co.uk and google.com etc...
While the test DC isn't showing anymore the new serps.
I'm starting this thread to post our remarks concerning the new serps.
Yes, as pointed out Canonical issues are better (for homepages) - but no rankings.
Steveb - I am surprised you dont see any improvements on the test DC as I know you watch Google closely - I agree that supplimentals are a mess on the test DC as much as anywhere.
Will GG and MC post? - I guess so when they have something concrete to post about - more likely to be MC though - GG seems to have forgotten us :( ;)
The test datacenter just has different problems, probably more problems if anything. More of those incorrect (usually index) pages ranking for subpages problems. More tracking URLs instead of genuine canonical pages listed. Lots of www and non-www ranking separately. No help for 302 hijacked sites from February.
But again, that's all rearranging the furniture. Until canonical and supplemental issues are addressed significantly, much ado about not much (although as usual with any update some incorrectly lost sites get found).
Who says that your rankings are gonna be what they were last Feb even with this fixes - that's nearly a year ago - other algo factors have changed in that timeframe so it's possible the canonical issues have masked a drop in rank you might have suffered anyway.
Just a thought which i'd throw in - maybe you're all looking for evidence of a "fix" which doesn't exist anymore?
reseller quoted matt cutts in an earlier post - matt said of the test DC "That data center has some infrastructure that I think in time will work better for canonicalization and redirects."
"in time" - so this test DC isn't just about fixing these issues. So in my opinion this DC is worth talking about and taking seriously.
I understand that - I should have said that the penalty that goes hand in hand with the canonical problem still appears to be in place.
EG. The homepage is not treated as the root for the site in a lot of the cases. (Eg site ordering that MC talked about does not apply to these sites, searching for "www.domain.com" still does not rank the domain for a search for its own domain name etc)
yep, googleplex wants us to make this part of their work
More to add to this.
Some of the other symptons of the Canonical url problem for the homepages are still in place.
Eg. link:domain.com and link:www.domain.com are showing different results for some domains still ........ so although it appears that if you query the domain.com G is returning the www.domain.com - the BL and PR (hard to tell with PR at mo) still seem to be split between the 2 versions of the site.
EG - The problems that Canonical urls causes for homepages are not fixed at all (BL and PR split) for some sites at the moment.
But MC said "In time"...........pffft - we will see.
I would be amazed if there is not a BL/PR update once Google have sorted out the correct Homepage Canonical urls - looking at BLs accross the DC and comparing the non-www to the www accross the DCs - then Google are either in a mess or working on it.
is anyone else still seeing the results changing between the old and test serps?
My visitors are predominantly from USA and UK, and my primary site acts like an indicator for DCs' current status: #2 when regular SERPs are served, and #nowhere when test SERPs are served! That is to say, my site starts receiving a couple of visitors per hour from regular DC's, and receives no visitors at all from test DCs.
Based on this observation, I can say that right now, test DC is the default page for both UK and USA that switched on and off for a couple of times within the last 24 hours!
Its switched on and off completely throughout the day and alternates with main index when live.
No point in getting excited until Google confirm they are going with the new (better IMHO) index.
the fact that the serps keep showing on the main google and then going again is so frustrating! it's like google are out to tease me :-)
it would be nice to hear from gg / mc to find out if they do actually plan to stick with the new test dc serps or not - at least then i can stop checking the results every 2 minutes - it's starting to take over my life
My traffic wont sufer but from googles opinion pages of a PR 6 home page and PR 5 subpages should have been indexed fully with no page more than 3 clicks from home page.
Anyways I will be niether happy nor sad if the update comes on or not since my traffic would be the same.
my rankings are bk to how they were (roughly) before jagger
Isn't this what the test DC is >>pre-Jagger results? which are trying to create a better index, by trial and error, to see what the tweaking of filters are doing. The test DC will show changes, on that basis, but whether they are permanent or not is anyones guess!
It seems unlikely that there will be new SERP's so soon after a massive update, such as Jagger....a BL update maybe, later this month.
It does not really look like it is ready to go live yet based on those aims though.......
Whether it resembles anything like it does now when it is finally rolled out is anyones guess.