Update Jagger - Part 2

[Brett_Tabke]

Continued from
[webmasterworld.com...]

[JuniorOptimizer]

Lee, for sure. I plan on working anyway. My reaction to these updates is to build more and more sites and pages. At least I've managed to get a lot more traffic from MSN, Yahoo, and the Blogosphere.

I've found it's a lot more motivational to get almost instant traffic, rather than waiting for Google to "get it right".

I still do not understand when relevancy drops.

[MHes]

Another part of the 'pattern' for a recovering site is that if you are searching for "keyword Placename" you may be nowhere but "keyword in placename" might be dramatically different.

I have consistently done well for one or other of these on a DC like 216.239.37.99 However, 3 days ago I started appearing top for both variations on 66.102.7.99

It is as if that datacentre has a more complete indexing of my pages.

[followgreg]

I still see 3 dfferent sets of results across all DC.

As for some queries I made: Why the hell after finding sites from Isreal on top of SERP I find sites in Polish! LOL
Geo targeting and all the rest is not working well with Google so far I guess.

BTW, just for those who read my post the other day, the major spammer across Europe and now US is still alive and kicking, the signature on the bottom of their 100's of cloaking pages is an obvious proof, for sufficient for being banned, me think( sometimes)....a-n-y-w-a-y-s!

[sailorjwd]

66.102.11.99 /104

back to the future.

I wake up today to see my canonicals back as well as ALL my supplementals... poop

[reseller]

followgreg

>>BTW, just for those who read my post the other day, the major spammer across Europe and now US is still alive and kicking,...<<

And in that connection, here is a shameless anti-spam promotion spot :-)

Folks! Don't wait to send Jagger-related spam feedback; I'd send that now. Using the keyword "Jagger" at [google.com...] will get someone reading and checking it out.

Thanks!

[Dayo_UK]

sailorjwd

Yes, some sites seem to have gone back :( - which is a shame as they looked good for a while (although my rankings were not good, just internally it looked good (site search) - it did bring faith in Googles ability a bit more)

But the DCs are in very major flux within themselves still.

Cheers

Dayo

[itloc]

Hi there

What I am seeing in

66.102.9.104
66.102.11.104

is not very encouraging. If these DC's really represent Jagger III I will loose lots of visitors.

Strangely enough - some of my competitors (competitive market) which are stuffing or using link exchanges are doing very well in these DC's.

For example - one of my competitors used a link exchange. At the beginning of Jagger he had 10 thousands of backlinks. These have been cut in half around 2 or 3 weeks ago. Probably he gained too many links in a too short period of time or tried something else.

In these DC's he is doing better than before. And my site is going down for every single search that brought me visitors before.

I do hope these DC's will not spread...

itloc

[Salon99]

66.102.9.104
66.102.11.104
is not very encouraging.

Does anyone remember the quality site exclusion tests I had our students perform last week? It was a methodology to compare Google/Yahoo/MSN in terms of omitting important data sources from visible returns.

We used a particular data center at the time which seemed to be at the forefront of the current Google changes. Google came out way behind the other two in terms of this specific quality measure.

For anyone interested, I just ran a few of the samples through the above DCs. Google is even further behind. In fact much further.

This is important to us because we tend to need to find key sites in niche research areas quickly. Due to its haphazard burial of quality data sources Google is the least reliable in this respect, which is the reason we adopted MSN as default here back in September.

Anyone interested in the broad methodology we used can find it in the previous 'Jagger' thread to this one.

[g1smd]

I don't see non-www/www problems being sorted, nor ancient supplemental results vanishing yet, but I do see on

>> [66.102.11.99...]

the SERPs ordered for a site:domain.com search as:

- Index Page (FI)
- Pages Linked from Index Page (FI)
- Folders Linked from Index Page (FI)
- Other Pages (FI)
- ALL URL-only listings

where (FI) means Fully Indexed with modern cache, and shown in SERPs with Full Title and Description.

This is about the only change I have noticed in the last 4 or 5 days, apart from sites that are normally cached daily, suddenly having their 31 Oct cache reverted back to one from 27 Oct where it has since stuck.

Fresh tags have been mostly missing for several days too.

[edited by: g1smd at 12:06 pm (utc) on Nov. 5, 2005]

[DumpedbyG]

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