Update Jagger - Part 2

[Brett_Tabke]

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[tigger]

MHes

sorry bud, you've lost me with this a bit. I copied a sentence from the index page of my site and fed it to G and it pulls us up at 42 out of 266 sites is this good or bad?

[lee_sufc]

MHes - I just tried what you suggested with a selection of text from my site and I couldn't find the pages anywhere in all DCs using Mcdar - does this mean it is a good sign?

[thecityofgold2005]

66.102.9.104 shows new results for me.

A step back from Jagger2 though. For instance, one site that was back with Jagger2 has now dissapeared again and my site has an inner page on page 2 which has never happened before.

I think these serps are the direction we are going but there is some change to come yet.

Where are GG / MC?

I'm still waiting for those fat men to sing.

[taps]

fredde: results I see are definately post Nov, 11th.

[MHes]

This update seems to be working on a site basis, rather than an overall DC basis. In other words, people will suddenly see their site drop while others are OK. Hence all the posts saying I see no difference or others saying "I see new results...". Overall algo's are not changing, just the index data for individual sites. For a while, we had no 'body text' indexed properly, just titles and anchor text, hence we only ranked for those. Then we started ranking for long search phrases found in our body text.

This results in old Jag2 and perhaps new Jag3 getting mixed together, as they slowly uppdate. DC's are all at different stages of this 'mix'.

I think the reality is that as new data is poured into the DC's, only a few people will be effected, whatever DC you are looking at. The pattern is, when it is your turn, that you drop like a stone while the portion of data that effects you is being processed. You can watch as slowly pages kick back in on one DC and then these also appear elsewhere. You can be out for 10 days but for all those who were getting top rankings in September, I think you will recover, as this update is not making significant algo changes, just a total revamp of the indexed data.

The current LIVE serps is a real boost for many sites that never had it so good. I think this will change and more familiar serps will return.

Reseller - There's a prediction for you :)

[tigger]

>MHes - I just tried what you suggested with a selection of text from my site and I couldn't find the pages anywhere in all DCs using Mcdar - does this mean it is a good sign?

got two extremes here then as I'm ranking 70th across all the DCs is using Mcdar

any clues Mhes?

[MHes]

lee_sufc Yes, I think thats a good sign.

Tigger - I think you are following the same pattern as us. Its your turn to sweat for a while! You will recover, I cannot believe that you have been suddenly penalised, and I don't think your site should be suddenly so unworthy when it ranked well before. As someone else said, small changes are a worry, big ones are a blip.

[StriderUK]

MHes, good analysis and prediction ;-)

I tend to agree with you. We were pounded at the beginning but have now appeared again (albeit at a lower ranking). Like you say, more familiar serps will probably return - but hopefully without the spam.

[steveb]

"Where are GG / MC?"

Waiting to say something when there is something to say.

When Jagger3 finally emerges, we'll hear something, and get the feedback requests, etc.

[tigger]

sweat! I can till you Mhes I'm doing a lot more than that but the filter here won't allow me to post it

all I know is I hope this doesn't last too long I can carry myself for 6mths any longer and I'm gone