Forum Moderators: Robert Charlton & goodroi
If you don't believe in the sanbox there are other threads to argue about that, keep it out of this one please.
I don't seem to have lost a lot of uniques, but pageviews per unique have dropped off quite a bit. Visitors on that keyphrase have always tended to stick around for a number of pageviews.
As for my sites, they are still in the sandbox. One of them has been what I call double-sandboxed, by which I mean its gone further down the serps and the pageviews have gone down by nearly 50%.
If you try a ten word query that uses your keywords from your "sandboxed" site they are showing up. I have a few thoughts on this pieced together from several other posts.
1. Google's primary index is full, so they are excluding new sites for "money words" and putting them in to a second index. This creates room for socially good sites to still have a chance to rank. The second/different index has new features, like the ability to search for phrases greater than ten words. Several people reported - including me - seeing a flash were their sites appeared prominently - hopefully this is a test of their new system that will go live soon. The second index is inclusive of the old and new.
2. I've read other posts on this that google is caching results due to the computing expense for algos like hilltop. This seems logical since Google is so cost conscious. The cached results are based on the pre ten word limit index and so until you make it to the current index you will not show up. They use this as their primary index with filters/link suppression/OOP that keeps people from getting in until enough time passes, links go hog wild, or they stop drinking on the job..I have no idea what actually gets you in.
3. My site is the only site that actually uses these ten words and so it is the best result.
Regardless, there isn't much anyone can do to get out of the SB on their own.
hopefully this is a test of their new system that will go live soon.
With the Allegra update and different ways sites are being ranked, maybe we are in for a major shake up this year.
Relief would be an understatement to say the least for thousands of webmasters alike.(Well those sandboxed anyway)
All of them were indexed within a period of 2 weeks.
"late 2005" is offcourse "late 2004"
i am writing this here as well since it fits.
http://216.239.57.105/ . Both my huge new websites are completely out of sandbox there and they rank super high for competitive terms. Thats how it looks until now. God know about tommorrow.
This is awesome.
Wowsers! My 1 year old sandbox site is there! Sure, it's on page 2, but it's a start. Lovely.
[216.239.57.105...] . Both my huge new websites are completely out of sandbox there and they rank super high for competitive terms. Thats how it looks until now. God know about tommorrow.
Its exactlly same for me on 216.239.57.105 i am completely out of sandbox, hope this propagates to all sites, keeping my fingers crossed
The site was previously a bed and breakfast site launched in Nov 2003.
And of the sites that you are reporting as being out of the sandbox, how many results for your key phrase?
Oh well, if they want to store 600 pages of information and not send any traffic, it is their problem.
The sandbox has caused me to start to use Yahoo more for searches (I was extremely loyal to Google at one time.) I have to say, their results are pretty good!
Mc
"Google's primary index is full, so they are excluding new sites for "money words" and putting them in to a second index. "
I have a site built 2002, they are ranked well #1 during 2002-10 -- 2004-06, after that days, it's keywords drop down to 4 page.
I searched it with -dfstgf * 13, it comes back #1.
The other question is the result is different between {http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&hl=zh-CN} and {http://www.google.com/search?hl=en}, my option is all "search all"
in theory, the first search range which include Chinese should be wider than the second, but their rank is better than the second.
I can't understand it.
was checking my Google Ranking today for a 8 months old commercial site which was always at page 10 to 20 and surprised to found it ranked at the top 10 for most of my targeted (competitive) Keywords.
I hope that you're all have the same,
- First Sandbox Survivor ;)
Imaster,
How old are your two sites that made it out?
Powdork, Both sites launched in May, 2004.
And its nice to hear that many members finally have their sites out of sandbox for the moment.
Right now, my sites are out of sandbox even at www.google.com main domain. :):):):):)
