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Google not a good reflection of the web

outdated search engine for a fast moving world

         

rotisman

9:01 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)



is it not a sad reflection of the web that in this high tec age of the internet that the "all powerfull search engine"
is delivering results that are SIX WEEKS OLD!
what happened to fresh info?

GoogleGuy

9:24 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Sonny, back in my day the search engines only updated every three or four months. Once I saw a search engine go a year without updating! Back then, search engines didn't even crawl millions of pages daily to freshen their index. Some search engines even wanted us to pay to be in their index! And we had to hike through four foot snow drifts, uphill, both ways, just to submit a page. Back in those days, all queries had to be boolean, too. I once had to form a query entirely out of ANDs. I tell ya, searchers these days have got it easy.

Hope I never get to be a GoogleGeezer.. ;)

Nick_W

9:27 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>GoogleGeezer

hehehehehe,

G is usually the Fastest, most up to date engine around. Give them a little slack, looks like we're in for an interesting update..

Nick

Powdork

9:29 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Funny, My dad had to go through four foot snow drifts, uphill both ways, in 100+ degree heat....

Oh yeah and Welcome to Webmater World rotisman

dazz

9:29 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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You have that wrong rotisman, the index ISNT 6 weeks old. I have put up a new site about 2 weeks ago and its getting hits from google.

All the update really does is tweak the algo and PR, it doesnt mean that new pages and sites are not included for 6 weeks.

Zapatista

9:30 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)



Googlegeezer, why are you up so late? what is it, 1:30 where you are? hanging around for something, some event, or no special reason?

:-)

Powdork

9:30 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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G is usually the Fastest

But now Fast is the Googlest :)

lazerzubb

9:31 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Welcome to Webmaster World [webmasterworld.com]

I do not agree with you on this, Google provides by far the freshest index on the web, sure they don't do complete updates every month (But pretty much) but due to the Freshbot most of the pages that should be freshly indexed ARE.
Sure some pages will always slip by, but the amount of fresh spidering is just amazing.

Most users don't have a clue about the Google update, and when you tell them about it they don't really care that much (No they are not webmasters)

Powdork

9:32 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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dazz, do you know how many billions of pages are not updated with fresh tags?

cwebb

9:33 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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So you admit you ever even think about non-Boolean searches? What are you searching for? One word keyphrases? Like any company can be found by one simple word like Google or anything... ;)

lazerzubb

9:33 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Powdork, do you know have many billions of pages that didn't update since the last time they were indexed ;)

digitalghost

9:33 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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<edit>Lazerubb beat me to it</edit>

[edited by: digitalghost at 9:37 am (utc) on Mar. 6, 2003]

dazz

9:33 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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2?

Powdork

9:38 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I agree lazerzubb and i agree that Google is usually the freshest index around. I also think this is the stalest google index I've seen in a long time. However, in this case i'm biased due to a lack of fresh listings even with daily multiple freshbot visits (new site sort of).

Off T- What do you think will happen in regards to the pr update within the G directory assuming that the RDF from DMOZ will be included. Will it still be the beginning or will it be diferent this month?

lazerzubb

9:41 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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To tell you the thruth i think these 2 past months have been the freshest indexes i've ever seen.

Lately it looks like freshbot have been spidering a lot sites without indexing them, i don't know it there is any special thing Google is testing out or what, i don't think it harms anyone though.

I hope they have the new RDF dump included within the normal update procedure.

fathom

9:44 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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You forgot ...in our father's Pajamas! ;)

vitaplease

9:50 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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rotisman,

welcome to WebmasterWorld, in fact at the moment it can be staler, up to 8-9 weeks if I'm not wrong. Normally Fresh listings take care of recent material, however for some reason the last week I've not seen any new material of mine indexed.
As LAz says, theyre probably testing.

PS. Lazerzubb is around - 66 minutes to countdown - whilst the US sleeps.

lazerzubb

9:52 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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vitaplease, PM not AM ;)

mayor

10:25 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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lol Googleguy. Didn't know you had such a sense of humor.