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My question is how will Google treat my pages? If it penalizes them it could serious affect my business. Before it was easy to diversify by marketing on Yahoo, Looksmart, or some other search engines. Now 65% or more of all the web searches happen on Google. The sites which once only received 7% of their traffic from Google now receive 80%. If I get penalized it could destroy my livelihood as well as the 300 artists how are dependent on the site's rankings.
I would like to know what Google Guy would say.
If your sites has a PR10 you too can put more than 100 links on a page and there was NO mention of a penalty. People, please stop all the penalty talk. There is a huge difference between a penalty and an action that provides no benefit.
Sites that are deemed more important, indicated by a higher Pagerank, enjoy more benefits. A higher PR seems to drive Google to index more pages.
One of the best reasons I can think of for not putting more than 100 links on a page is because the page becomes cumbersome to use unless the IA is taken into account and the page is easy to navigate. Now factor in the size of the page. Each link adds more code.
All this talk about penalties needs to stop unless you can prove that a penalty has been incurred or will be incurred.
If you have too many links how about dividing them up into sub categories on separate pages?
Have seen single pages that contained hundreds of links - in tiny text (font size="1") and such foolishness is NOT WORTH the risk that comes from being dropped from an Engine that accounts for 60% (and more) of ALL web searches being conducted daily around the World.
Your advertisers won't think it's a smart investment if your site is nowhere to be found.
Sometimes changes MUST be made for the greater good.
Best of luck,
Bobmcd
First, for digitalghost, Google in no way says that there will be a penalty applied, it is just a 'Design and Content Guideline"
From [google.com...]
...If the site map is larger than 100 or so links, you may want to break the site map into separate pages.and...
Keep the links on a given page to a reasonable number (fewer than 100).
We have seen pages that have many more than 100 links with only about 100 spidered.
We have seen pages with many more than 100 links with all the links spidered.
Some folks think that the?100K? recommended size (which I can't find right now) also kicks in for the numbered of followed links.
And actually, forget all the above. I just re-read the initial post...
Each page of site has a link to the artist's pages in a drop down menu.
Google probably won't follow those anyway. Keep the drop downs for your visitors but set up straight site maps (<100 links per page,?alphabetical?) for the spiders.
Make everybody happy.
Jim
...well past the 100 link limit.
allanp73, what you are referring to can be most accurately described as the "PageRank pass-through penalty."
There is an on-going discussion on this topic here -
[webmasterworld.com...]
This can cause a loss of PageRank, as well as a corresponding drop in rankings.
This is not a fixed "100 link limit" imposed by Google. The actual # of links where this appears to "kick-in" is somewhere between 100-200 links, and is likely simply the result of a Google FFA/link farm filter.
The best advice for those with a large # of links on a page is what Google suggests - break your pages up so that you have fewer links on each one.
If all of these links are being done with dropdown/javascript, then I would agree that you probably don't have anything to worry about, as Google likely won't see these links anyway.
This penalty has been observed in both cases. One of the examples, in fact, involved nothing but internal links.
It is a guideline, in my opinion done to prevent pages not to be indexed from sitemaps with natural PR0's.
added: did not see GG's late night post
100 links is a good soft limit, but 100K is a hard limit. All pages should be shorted than that.
The google cache of pages 100k + is curtailed at the point of excess,correct?
Does this mean that any content over and above 100k is not considered in any relevancy calculus for *that* page, or is it read, duly noted, but simply not displayed?
The reason that I ask, is that some companies have links pages in excess of this figure, which would mean that if your link was on such a page, then any relative value would be greatly reduced, especially if your link was nearer the bottom of the page.
The reason that I ask, is that some companies have links pages in excess of this figure, which would mean that if your link was on such a page, then any relative value would be greatly reduced, especially if your link was nearer the bottom of the page.
onionrep,
You can do some easy checks in Alltheweb, do an advanced search for guestbook or link page in title or url with file size above 100 kb ;)
then check the back links in Google if they show (as long as the links page and the receiving page both have a PR4 or higher).
as far as I remember the links below 101 kb are disregarded?
Seems that established websites with large link pages may be receiving more than their fair share of any recip link value.
New sites seeking a link exchange with established sites will not receive any value, wheras the established site will, by virtue of the fact that their link will be nearer to the top of the 'new' sites links page.
Ive had a quick look at who I link too and found that a fair few, are in excess of the 101k cut off.
Oh well, more letter writing.
Dear Webmaster
Your links page at www.............
A sort of self-regulation until google does something about it.
