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New Site Waiting For Crawl

Need a boost of confidence please

         

aggie12thman

5:58 pm on Mar 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Have a new site and have 20-30 links pointing to it. Very good content, very niche and targeted for each specific word or phrase we are targeting. I've seen a few pages temporarily up and then disappear, the usual. Anyway, I'm hoping for a deep crawl this month. Any suggestions or hopeful insight?

I can't seem to find any log files. We use Yahoo Store and can't seem get an answer from them either. So we are in limbo............just waiting.............just hoping........arrrggggghhhhh!

Total Paranoia

6:07 pm on Mar 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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You will get a crawl sometime this month then and should appear in the main index by April. If you are really lucky, you might have already had a deep crawl and may end up in the real index after the imminent update.

I do not think you will have access to any server logs if you are using a free host such as yahoo.

aggie12thman

8:25 pm on Mar 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Actually I'm using Yahoo Store which is a full service for internet business applications. Thanks for the update, I'm hoping you are correct.

Pegasus

8:27 pm on Mar 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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You are doomed!

DOOMED I TELL YOU!

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!

Did that help? :P

kyr01

8:42 pm on Mar 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I did a quick check for you on Yahoo, and it seems that you should be able to access your raw logs, provided you have a standard or professional account. Can't help more because I've never used their services, but it shouldn't be difficult to find the logs (you should also be able to specify the number of days logs are kept before they are deleted). Good luck with the next dance!

aggie12thman

9:05 pm on Mar 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Thanks Pegasus, you give me all the confidence in the world. Your killing me!

aspdesigner

3:05 am on Mar 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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If you got at least some of those links before about Feb. 6, there is a good chance you will be in the upcoming update.

o0_cops_0o

3:58 am on Mar 5, 2003 (gmt 0)



be smart..turn around and walk away before its to late ....GO GO NOW!

aggie12thman

5:48 am on Mar 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Turn around? Are you referring to the enormous amount of time and effort? It's too late for me. I'm already in the game. Can't turn around now.

o0_cops_0o

3:11 pm on Mar 5, 2003 (gmt 0)



aggie12thman i dont mean for you to stop what your doing lol. dont mind me, im going a little koo koo waiting for the google update

As far as your site goes..keep searching for relative links to your site with good content, which sounds like you have because the freshy's are crawling your site..If you havent been deep crawled at the beggining of feb. i can tell you your chances are excellent for the march crawl.

DLadybug

3:44 pm on Mar 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I have been reading threads in the goodle and SE topics, but I still don't have an overall. If these answers have been supplied here and I've missed them, sorry. but links will help anyone coming after me with same Q's.

Things I can get a basic definition of but still don't "get"...

I gather a freshbot is something that refreshes the SE look at your site, what Is it? How does it work, how often does it pass by, does it have a route? like by IP or just running around following links? (Where to read more?)

Page Rank. I see lots of refs to PR0-6, what IS this scale, where do people "see" it? It sounds like something displayed on a browser because I've seen refs to PR being "greyed out". Is that a page rank based on googles bots? Zero is low, but how high does "high" go? Once your page is rated, how often does that change? What does page rank do for you, or is it related to adwords? How can I find out my pages ranks?

(That's not critical, just interesting. I care more about how my own visitors rank it, but if a higher PR will help get them there...hey. :)

What exactly is this waiting for an update? When the update comes, will you all get mail from somewhere sharing the results of whatever an update is? (again, where to read more?)

Last, people appearantly know when their site/pages are tickled by some bot. (fresh or not so fresh, I don't know how many and what types there are) How do they know this? I'm assuming logs, but the logs I get from DirectNIC tell mostly things like browser type, operating system, referrers, and search engine keywords used. I'm sure I should know how to tell what all those things mean, but nah. I haven't found anything to tell me how to read/interpret the data I have. Where did you all learn?

I'm really not looking for anyone to spoon feed me, just point me to relevent sources. Course, if you have a really cool spoon and something for dessert...

Dian :)

(I think this should have been a new post, not a reply. If the mods move it, thanks. I didn't mean to cause you extra work!)

Shak

3:47 pm on Mar 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Page Rank. I see lots of refs to PR0-6, what IS this scale, where do people "see" it? It sounds like something displayed on a browser because I've seen refs to PR being "greyed out". Is that a page rank based on googles bots? Zero is low, but how high does "high" go? Once your page is rated, how often does that change? What does page rank do for you, or is it related to adwords? How can I find out my pages ranks?

a few pointers:

[toolbar.google.com...]
[webmasterworld.com...]

are 2 very good starting points.

Shak

(and your site in profile is showing WHITE, which is another different story)

driglaz

3:54 pm on Mar 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I would not recommend using Yahoo as your primary store front, It is my suggestion to use Yahoo as a secondary stort front that will increase traffic and exposure to your primary shopping cart which should be part of your website. If this was happening your reporting ability would be greatly improved over your current situation.

Dave Lazar

[edited by: ciml at 8:49 pm (utc) on Mar. 5, 2003]
[edit reason] No URL .sigs please. [/edit]

DLadybug

8:41 pm on Mar 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Half answering my own question, aside from the excellant links provided so far, I also stumbled across this:

[webmasterworld.com...]
Googlebot: Deepbot and Freshbot FAQ and Information

and this:
[webmasterworld.com...]
Google Updates and Everflux, the Monthly Mid-Cycle Changes

Thanks all who replied! I'll be busy reading and will probably not be prepared for the next update/ bot thing. But that's ok, I'd rather loose time now than revisit this stuff in a few months after making costly/tacky/moral errors.

Dian :)

Guenni

9:45 pm on Mar 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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hi folks,

just a short question... my site is new, too.
online since end of jan, had the first deepcrawl in feb and am now waiting for the dance.

problem: my site will be moved feb 12.
question: will it cause problems? the server i'm right now hosting isn't working well and after complaining the provider will move my sites to another server.

more important question: will dance then be active, should i cancel 12th?
or will it not affect my listing if the site has some downtime?

Guenni

9:52 pm on Mar 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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sorry, forgot to say that i'm listed in the index.
first it was about 20 - 30 sites, now its only the domain

Shak

9:52 pm on Mar 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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be moved feb 12.

March I take it?

No reason why you can NOT plan everything, and make sure Google does NOT miss your site during the move.

I am not technical enough to explain it, however we have done this on a number of times without any problems.

I am sure a fellow member with a bit more tech writing skills will explain how its done.

Shak

Guenni

10:40 pm on Mar 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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sorry, its march, right.

driglaz

1:48 pm on Apr 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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perhaps your on an old server

see my post on spiders and server farms

[webmasterworld.com...]