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Suddenly, higher PR

Checking some stats this morning caught me by surprise

     
1:58 pm on Mar 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I just went through my normal morning routine of checking a number of web site's statistics, when I noticed a PR of 6 on a page that isn't allowed in Google (robots.txt exclusion to stats sub-folder).

When I checked the homepage of that domain, I saw a PR of 7. This catches me by surprise because the site was just finished four or five days ago. Upon looking into other sites, I'm also seeing a much higher level of PR. Things like PR 5's becoming 7's, etc.

This is based only on what I'm seeing via the toolbar on my home machine. Certainly not as robust as my work computer, but still - from what I can tell, this is odd and has not happened before.

Anyone else noticing this?

2:04 pm on Mar 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I take it you do not want to give the url? In case they have made a boo boo? lol
2:07 pm on Mar 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Yeah, I think I'll hold onto the URLs in this case! :)

It's odd because my bookmarks point to:

domain.com/stats/

The part that caught me is that I've never shown a PR on those pages until this morning. Now, without the "www" prefix, they're showing quite the PR on the toolbar.

2:16 pm on Mar 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Beachboy also saw a change [webmasterworld.com].

I don't see changed PageRank for the URLs I measure, so maybe this is for new URLs only?

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I am seeing PR7 for uk domains registered in the last few days that have not been visited by google. Very strange...
2:19 pm on Mar 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Perhaps it is only a fluctuation and hole based on the up and coming update. You know, it'd be sort of cool to see these new domains in the new index with the PR I'm seeing.

BTW, sorry for have missed Beachboy's comments originally.

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I think if you go to a site with no PR from a site with a PR the toolbar still remembers/displays the previous PR from the previous site.

Have others observed this?

2:32 pm on Mar 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I think that something important is happening.

Either the Toolbar is guessing PR for unknown domains now (maybe just some versions), Google are calculating PageRank in an odd way, or the Toolbar is getting this month's PageRank before any of Google's servers show this month's backlinks. or jammer's suggestion

Do these URLs seem to rank well, and is the Toolbar PageRank consistent with the links that point to these domains?

aspdaddy, do you get a grey PR bar if you go to a non-existent domain?

[edited by: ciml at 2:34 pm (utc) on Mar. 1, 2003]

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Toolbar problems ...
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Ok, just saw something weird... If I access the stats page that had a PR of 7 after leaving WebmasterWorld, it shows a 5. When I access it having left from a PR8 domain, it shows a 6.

Clearly, this is not an assigned PR value for the site.

EDIT...

Just closed out all IE windows, and checked it. Toolbar was grey. Went then to Google, then to that page, showed a PR of 10.

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This has been going on lately. When I go to Google News, then back to my unindexed, grey bar site, I've got a PR10. Shut IE down & go straight to that site & it's grey again.
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I have one particular site which I know shouldn't be doing what it is in terms of PR. It is one page only, very little content, what content there is is mostly stop words or very highly competitive keywords / phrases. one or 2 backlinks.

Since early this morning it's been flipping between PR 4 and PR10 on the toolbar, and is #10 for a really competitive (worldwide) keyphrase. I mean, I'm not complaining :) but it can't be right, definately some kind of weirdness. One thing I recall is I did write Google this month to enquire if this page had been banned

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Yeah, I have a new site up, that was just crawled and am waiting for this dance. I pulled it up after looking at this thread and it shows a PR8! Wow, I think I am going to make a screenshot of it, before it changes to the real PR! ;)
3:12 pm on Mar 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Interesting. This doesn't happen on mine, but that could be due to version differences. I downloaded it last week (1.1.68) after it disappeared from IE and Windows.
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>do you get a grey PR bar if you go to a non-existent domain?

No it stays the same, that is it, it is carrying the PR from the last page.

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A coworker of mine was getting PR10 on everything the other day, I told him to take some screenshots for fun.
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My experience with this oddity is:

Using ie6 browser whenever I go on online with my bookmarked page I get a pr7.
Then whenever I go to my site the 7 remains. I would then go to a page within my site and the rating would still be the same. Now if I go back to my index page only then does the pr shows up correctly. This applies to all the links here-after.

I've have been experiencing this for several months.

Incidentally the bookmarked page now have a pr8 this morning

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I'm going to uninstall my toolbar, do a regclean, pick my way through the registry, reboot & anything else I can think of before reinstalling the toolbar fresh & see what happens to my old-spammy-&-forgotten-but-now-pr10 page.

Yeah I know, I really should get a life

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Lovely fresh install of the toolbar, and the weirdness remains. Yep, that'll do, just leave it like that GG, PR 10'll do me fine thanks 8-)
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Hrmm... I see some heavy guessing.

I own a domain .. lets say widgets200.com ... someone registered widget200.com, and while I see a grayed out bar, some people are seeing a PR7 [which is the PR of my website].

Guess away!

10:59 pm on Mar 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Dear Google,

I want you to know I greatly appreciate the new PR-10 on that new page I uploaded to the server only this morning. You needn't reconsider the PR on that page. It's cool, just walk away, don't concern yourselves about it, and accept my everlasting gratitude.

Thank you.

:)

-Beachboy.

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I get free PR8 on any page I want at the moment. Even if I haven't uploaded it yet.

(This is the toolbar guessing I've read about .. goes on all the time yes? otherwise thanks Google, very much like this new seasonal offer)

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This was happening to me with the "Category" too.
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I have also seen this happening in the last week 3/4/03.

I have a domain, which has only been crawled the index.html page by googlebot, and all of a sudden I get a pagerank of 8 in the toolbar for my site.

I tried from both home and work, and sometimes I get a 6, othertimes an 8.

if i type link:domain.com in google, I get 0 results, and same with allinurl:domain.com

nothin'.

The only thing I can think of is either the Toolbar is seriously buggy, or it's using the latest update results, newer than the database google.com uses.

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My two brand new sites 2 weeks old both have PR10. Sorry for the rest of you!
12:56 pm on Mar 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Write to me after I stop rolling on the floor laughing.
12:58 pm on Mar 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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xerxes - any chance of a link?
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had grey PR for a month, PR6 prior to that.

Today - consistently - it is back in at PR3. Doesn't matter where I have been before or after.

However pages one link down on the site still have grey bar, when you would expect them to have at least PR2.

I think there is some pre-update provisional PR-ing going on.

1:48 pm on Mar 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I think all you boys should stop playing with your toolbars and get back to work...
3:25 pm on Mar 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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... or just update to the latest version (1.1.70) which solves the problems :)
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