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kelleybelly

2:40 am on Feb 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi, I was wondering if anyone can tell me how long it should take for me to show up in the search results in google once my pages are submitted and indexed. I have over 288 pages that are showing up in google under "containing exact url" which no one will actually do a search under my url in google search, but how many months does it usually take for your text to be searchable in google once indexed? Thank You in advance.

jdMorgan

3:17 am on Feb 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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kellybelly,

This sounds a bit odd... Usually, either Google has you indexed or it doesn't. Is it possible that Google spidered your site while it was:
1) Under construction?
2) Disallowed by directives in your robots.txt file?
3) Disallowed by <meta name="robots" content="noindex">?

I wouldn't worry about it too much, it's also possible that only Google's freshbot spidered your site, and you haven't been deep-crawled yet.

You will probably see a positive change after the next monthly update, expected to start any day now (no precisely-predicatable schedule - it varies, sometimes by weeks - but usually monthly). Work on getting more incoming links from relevant highly-ranked sites with on-topic link text, and work on your content to pass the time until then.

Jim

rogerd

3:29 am on Feb 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Kellybelly, when you check your listings in Google, do you see a description or text snippets from each page? Google has a sort of limbo, where it finds a page and lists the URL, but hasn't actually analyzed the page content. These pages show as being in the index, but they will never turn up in search results until they are fully spidered.

kelleybelly

4:07 am on Feb 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi Yes My pages are their but its as if they are indexed but not really their - Do you know what that means- I have so many pages that are there-showing but none are searchable.

kelleybelly

4:10 am on Feb 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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rogerd-Thanks! Do you know how long until they are fully spidered. Here is the time line
Submitted Dec 1st
My Home pages was listed Jan 1st 2003
Feb 1st All 288 pages showed up under the search including all pages containing my URL. Yes they still are not searchable.

neh2008

5:26 am on Feb 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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My problem is the same.

my site got indexed in mid-january, and I am waiting for the update too.

I am sort of new to SEO, but looking at the google update history, it seems this year they are (google) running behind the schedule. It used to happen around 20th Feb. and it still hasn't happened yet!

What are they doing? is it that Blogger which has made them busy? :))

Just get my pages up there, so that I can see my work.

NickCoons

6:32 am on Feb 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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kelleybelly,

When you search for your exact URL, have you tried viewing the cache? You should be able to search for whatever the cache shows you, and find your site.. though you may not be at the top of the SERPs so it might be initially apparent that your site can be found by searching for your keywords.

mbennie

7:07 am on Feb 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I think I know what Kelly is refering to.

We had a few new sites indexed during the last update. With just a few incoming links the page ranks were very low. The pages were crawled and indexed but without titles, descriptions or snippets.

I am waiting for this update to see if the increased page ranks will change the results for these sites.

Powdork

8:09 am on Feb 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Sometimes Freshbot will find a new link on a page and not follow it. It may still index the URL but not the content on the page because it has only indexed the link itself. I believe this can also happen if the links (it would have to be all the links that Google found before the second week of January) were from pages with the meta="robots" content="index, nofollow" tag. Or the same thing in a robots.txt file.

kelleybelly

3:38 pm on Feb 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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So eventually then Google should read the content to the index links if it was submitted before Jan second if the pages are indexed?

werty

3:57 pm on Feb 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Here is a story of a site I did a few months ago.

Late nov./early dec. I created the page.

Started getting links to it. 7-8 or so by mid Dec.
Added to DMOZ
Greyed out PR

Dec. Google Dance happens. Jan 1st
If I do a search for keywords no results. Or not in top 10 serps
If i do "company" some pages come up. From the links that i made plus the HOME PAGE of my site...so I am in.
PR0 on toolbar (white)

Jan dance happens:
Come up for target phrases (#1 for a few(c:)
Now a PR4
All pages indexed(all 10 of them...)

So maybe after the next dance you will be coming up for your target keywords.

kelleybelly

4:04 pm on Feb 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hopefylly, I am getting impatient due to the fact i have been indexed with 280 + pages since Jan, non of which are searchable. I have a sliver of green in the google tool bar. I have to show up eventually other than by site title. I worked hard to make all of the relevent text pages and just a few weeks ago started to get links to my site-maybe that will help. Thanks

BigDave

4:44 pm on Feb 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I have noticed this with some messages in archives. I think it happens when the page is a very low PR0. If these pages are crawled at all it is just to follow their links.

I think most of them are as Powdork suggested, I think it happens when Google indexes a page that contains a link to that page, but does not index the page itself.

Submitting your site will only get you a freshbot visit. To get in the main index, you need those incoming links. If you only started getting links a few weeks ago, you might have missed the deep crawl for this month. If you got the links in time you my show up in a few days, if you did not then you may have to wait till the end of march.

engine

5:24 pm on Feb 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Yes, you must be patient. I would normally advise three months time frame to allow everything to settle.

If, by the time of the next update, your site has been spidered and you still see the same results in the index, then there may be a fault.

I would check to ensure your site is 100% and does not cause googlebot to trip up. Take a look at Brett's tools here [searchengineworld.com] to check the site.

kelleybelly

5:35 pm on Feb 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Thanks Alot!

nokama

7:21 am on Mar 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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engine-

What would the major faults be? I am totally perplexed by the way the google dance fleshes out.

I have several sites that I am trying to optimize. I have gotten premium serp for a handful of my sites, within days of optimization, and yet others, using the same techniques, still have a 0 pr after months, even though they are linked from my pr7 and pr8 sites. I agree that the timing of my SEO work coincidentally resulted in a quick turnaround in some cases, but argh! The two sites that are really worrying me appear to have been fully spidered, but looking at the cache and or text-searching, it is as though they were fully indexed when first built (by someone else) and forgotten...

or perhaps...this weekend I have seen two of my (different) sites 'rolled back' or reverted to the previous google cache, presumably because I was pushing my luck. Does this happen frequently, and if so, could it be that the two troublesome pages were relegated to their previous state in the index?

sorry for the rant. Am I correct that a major update to the (goo)index took place this weekend?