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rankme

8:48 pm on Feb 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

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First post. Thanks for all the good resources here. If I've missed where this is answered, just point the way.

My client's site seems to have vanished from google's index. Searches at www.google, www1.google, www2.google, and www3. google don't turn up anything. No evidence of the site in the google directory, although it's still at dmoz.

Site is established, had been indexed for years, had been ranked highly. A search at google for link:sitename.com does turn up 128 inbound legitimate links.

While I know that ranks can vary during the Google Dance, is it possible for a site to just vanish completely?

I've been aware of this for about 30 hours. In other words, this may be a temporary glitch? (she asks, hopefully)

Thanks in advance for participating in my Stress Reduction Plan:->

Brett_Tabke

8:54 pm on Feb 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It's not entirely uncommon for sites to just get dropped for no reason. But, what's the toolbar say for a rank when you hit your own site?

rankme

9:08 pm on Feb 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Page Rank. Good point! As an Opera user, had forgotten to check (duh). The site's index page indicates no page rank at all at the moment. The Page Rank bar is completely blank.

TheDave

12:33 am on Feb 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'm no authority but since no one else has answered, afaik there are 2 blank toolbars, a grey one and a white one.

grey = unindexed (possibly related to updates)

white = PR0 = site banned = email google and and politely ask why.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Brett_Tabke

12:35 am on Feb 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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right on dave.

fathom

1:03 am on Feb 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Some other things to consider

grey = unindexed (possibly related to updates)

A google burp

Host down during Refresh Crawl -- check deep pages (if any) for PageRank) in this case will return to normal in a day or to.

If changes occurred immediately following the last monthly update -- host down during Googlsbot's crawl - need to wait of new monthly update.

Also power outage at major/minor backbones or your hub will have a similar affect. Also common this time of year.

white = PR0 = site banned = email google and and politely ask why.

bans are relatively rare - but I suspect if there is any reason to be outright "banned" you would already know the reason (as the sites maintainer) -- thus not likely. A penalty also can have similar affects.

some other possibilities not directly related to you but just as effective (negatively) - the host provider is banned (check hosts site PR)

a bad neighborhood was linked to - this could be a site you are linking to (check all outbound links PR)

x_m

12:22 pm on Feb 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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grey = unindexed (possibly related to updates)

I dare not to agree entirely. URL previously having PR and then experiencing
1. greyed out PR toolbar
+
2. search on entire URL in Google (not via toolbar, it redirects to that page) shows "Sorry, no information is available for the URL [yoururlhere.com...]
+
3. above mentioned search result page DOESN't give the option "If the URL is valid, try visiting that web page by clicking on the following link [yoururlhere.com...] " but ONLY the option "Find web pages that contain the term "http://yoururlhere.com/page.html "

=
Total (ninja :-) ) ban.

I have seen it on handful of domains, for example on porn abused dmoz domains or on fake referral stats generating domains.

XM

Chef_Brian

1:40 pm on Feb 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hello Rankme,

To share some info:

I had two sites dissappear in the january update. Both of these sites were ranking and in the index for about two to three months prior with pageranks of 5.

During January both of these sites had a "grey" bar which many people here will tell you is nothing to worry about. After about two or three days of worrying I decided that google "lost" both of my sites and that they were not banned. I figured if they were in trouble with google they would have had a white bar instead of the grey.

Sure enough during the last update (Febuary) both of these sites returned to the index with their pageranks of 5 and are doing very well for there targeted keywords.

Also note that my main sites which anyone can find in my profile had about 75 pages this last update with a white bar. These were all new pages that were added right before the update. This did worry me since these pages had the white bar, however note that the main page has a pagerank of 6. I did a bit of research and found others on this board also had the same problem and figured things would be ok in the coming update and sure enough that was the case.

I think google is ranking slightly different in the last several months with regard to pagerank, the white bar and a grey bar.

Hopefully your missing site will return soon.

Brian

tennismaster

2:59 pm on Feb 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Rankme,

Our PR5 established site disappeared from google
a few weeks ago, but returned within a week, so
glitches are not uncommon.

I would wait until after the upcoming dance
before drawing any conclusions.

TM