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Meanwhile the subdirectory site I am dying to have make it to PR7 has tons of outside backlinks, many many content filled pages with information found nowhere else on the net and is know throughout the field of 'widgeting' history. <aaauuuugggghhhh!>
The only strange thing about the poetry index page is that is shows two backlinks from geosomething but when I go to those pages they don't have a link to my PR7 poetry page. The geo site has been around for a long time. It's all a muystery to me but may help explain why some other sites on the net have a strangely high PR.
Anne
I only mentioned geo because those 2 strange backlinks come from a site there. That must be the key though there is nothing else. I can't find any hidden links on the geo pages. It's probably just a geo of google burp and will disappear next month. It is all too strange though. The URL is in my profile in case anyone is curious to see if they can solve the mystery.
Anne
I see more then 25 pages of results + you have odp listing, i think that's why you have pr7? just guessing.
[web.archive.org...]
Then again maybe you are just wooing the googlebot and making it swoon ;)
ik - I must not be doing the search right. I tried
link:http://www.mydomain.+com/anne
and get nothing
Anne
By the way, if your domain existed in 1996, is the poetry page physically much older than the one that "only" has the PR6?
First I think it's clearly the distribution weight of the internal links over the entire site. The front page has a PR7 and it can pull up the other pages based on how many links exist on the site and how they point to each other.
Secondly, strangely you are not using local links internally but fully qualified links. I am not sure how this affects Google, in theory it should not affect it at all. The majority of the links on the poetry page are "sub-links" below it for the individual poems, but the other pages have links to all over the web site.
Last but far from least, you are sometimes using [yourdomainname.com...] in the links, and then sometimes just [yourdomainname.com...] Google PR is known to have an issue with treating those two variant as seperate sites, because of the possibility of subdomains. So the link weight is unbalanced across the pages, especially to the one you want to have the PR7.
Okay let's see what the google guru's have to say about this...
Your DMOZ listings are in heavily populated categories so that's not doing it. And some of the pages listed as backlinks for your homepage don't link to it! There is definitely something weird going on here.
But why question success?!?
You say you bought this domain name in 1996. Maybe, just maybe, this proves Brett's theory about the age of a domain somehow contributing to PR.
I'm pretty much stumped.
I'm really confused by this whole scenario. You have a PR7 with four hundred something backlinks? That doesn't seem possible without a bunch of high PR inbound links but I couldn't find them.
Have one site 290 backlinks and mainpage PR7.
One member has one PR7 mainpage with 68 links.
The quality of the link (in PR) and the least number of other links (off the same page pointing to you) pointing to other pages/sites allows lower number of links to produce higher PageRanks.
Going through the URLs of all their resellers in my location, it seems all of them has PR8 irregardless of their poor contents. PR doesn't seems to get diluted in this instance. If they were my competitors, it would be hard for me to achieve even an on-par PR against them.
kwngian
Yes, the poetry page (pr7) is much older than the widgiting history page(pr6), oround 5 years older. Hmm, does make you think about the old pages theory. I've had widgeting history on the domain for some time but reorganized about a year ago with a new subdirectory. Could have been a mistake it looks like now.
you are not using local links internally but fully qualified links
I know I've been sloppy in not being consistent in using the www in the links. It's a matter of the site evolving over so many years and my gradually learning these things. Should I go through and make sure I use the www is in every internal link on the site?
taxpod
And some of the pages listed as backlinks for your homepage don't link to it! There is definitely something weird going on here.
Using the google toolbar I get 438 backlinks on the root directory index page which is PR7. It's been around for several years and has a lot of links to it from little homepages that don't show up in the backlinks. I'm not questioning that PR7, just delighted it's there.
The amateur poetry index page is what bugs me. I don't expect many people to visit it. No matter what search I use I only get a couple of outside links to it and only I can see how it would be PR6 like the other pages linked from the root index page but the PR7 has to be some sort of a fluke. The reason it bugs me is that I rarely give it any thought. I haven't put anything new on it for over a year and meanwhile I work many hours every week on the widgeting history subdirectory site and that index page has 276 backlinks with the google bar. It's just not faaaiiiiirrr!
I only get occasional visitors on the poetry page and the widgeting history page gets a lot more visitors each day than even the root directory index page (domain homepage). Total unique visitory is around a thousand a day for the whole domain. The only thing I can think of that is keeping the history page back is that I can't get it listed on Yahoo. It must be the fact that the root page is already listed on Yahoo that is hurting me. Also I don't know if the history page is being penalized by google because it is in a subdirectory and not the root index page.
Then it may be something else altogether. I've wondered if it has to do with key word density. The poetry page has very little repetition in words while the history page has history, widgits, widget, and widgeting repeated a lot simply because the words are needed to make sense of what I am saying there.
And of course the history page may just not deserve a PR7 buy the poety page doesn't either.
Anyway it's been interesting reading everyone's thoughts on this. Thanks all.
Anne
