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I am trying to determine the FASTEST way to have my brand
new website listed in the Google search engine.
Is it possible to have a website added to Google within
say 72 hours, if ...
An existing, Google ranked website links to my new site?
If such a website did link back to me, would spiders find
my website as soon as the existing ranked site receives a
visit from the Google spider? If so, is it simply a matter
for me to find an existing ranked website, that is spidered
regularly, and then ask (or pay) the webmaster to link to
my new website? Would their returning spider, immeadiately
spot the new link to my new website, and subsequently go
and spider my website right there and then? Would my site
be listed very quickly in the rankings?
I appreciate your time, and I hope my question makes a bit
of sense. I have done a lot of reading, but couldn't work
out if it was simply a matter of being linked to, in order
to attract the Google spider, and to be listed ultra fast.
Thanks,
Jonathan
<added> Welcome wanderingmind!</added>
I recently built another site with similar content with a different domain and hosting.
I put a link from my main site to the new site, and
TWO days after googlebot came to my main site, the new site was in the google index!
Of course this was freshbot and the listing disappeared
then reappeared again, but it is the quickest way to start
a new site in the index.
TM
[edited by: tennismaster at 2:42 pm (utc) on Feb. 7, 2003]
I'll tell you what happened to a new site I've put online on january 13th this year. ;)
The same day at 8:45PM, I had a link from the homepage of my main site to the new one. Not even one hour later, the FreshBot visited my site like usual, and at 10:25PM paid a visit to the new site's homepage. It was at that time the only link on the net to the new site.
Googlebot came back the next day and nearly fully indexed the new site which could be found in Google's index on the 15th mid-afternoon.
That's just a bit less than 48 hours...
That site has been deepcrawled yesterday starting at 2:30AM GMT.
Dan
most people here are pros, and all of us have to wait the month, unless we are extemely large, have tons of links, and have regularly updated content.
I put a link from my main site to the new site, and
TWO days after googlebot came to my main site, the new site was in the google index!
Tennismaster,
was the complete new site "fresh-indexed" within Google?
Or only those pages of the new site that got a link from the older site?
Ok - so, even if the most popular, most heavily spidered
website in the entire world, links directly to me from
their front page - it is *still* going to take at least
a month, before Google displays the new index of pages,
that have been spidered and submitted?
And, even if I do manage to fluke it, and the spider finds
my website the first time around, then it won't be actually
added until the new index is built. Can someone confirm that
the new index will appear at the beginning of next month, or
has the new index for this month yet to appear? (Sorry if
this information is to be found elsewhere).
Having said all this, when would the very best time be, to
have an existing ranked website link back to me? Is there
an exact date that Google re-indexes all its listings?
Ok - so, even if the most popular, most heavily spidered website in the entire world, links directly to me from their front page - it is *still* going to take at least a month, before Google displays the new index of pages
Yes, the whole of the new site was in google.
I can also confirm that the the new site has been deepcrawled recently, so I should be in the proper index
next month.
Yup. Freshbot could find you, and you could show in the listings for a while, but that is not something to count on, and you won't really be in the index until the following month...as long as everything goes smoothly.
> Can someone confirm that the new index will
> appear at the beginning of next month
The new index generally shows up live around the first of the month.
> when would the very best time be, to have
> an existing ranked website link back to me?
As soon as possible.
> Is there an exact date that Google re-indexes all
> its listings?
Yup, generally its around the 21st-28th, and it continues for a while. Try searching (top of page) for "google update" and "everflux" for more info.
Anyway, having read all this - it seems that to be included
as fast as possible requires a few things to happen:
1. A link from a regularly Fresh-Bot spidered website ...
2. Google's fresh spider must spider the existing website,
and visit the newly created website. The spider then lists
the new website temporarily, and after a month or so, the
new website is added to the Google listings.
So, with this in mind I have another question, relating to
the FreshBot spider. Is there any software, or scripts that
will tell me exactly when the freshbot arrives - OR, will I
need to check my logs manually, each day (hour?), looking
for traces of this particular spider?
I already have an existing website in Google, so I would
like to know if it is possible to identify the spider
within seconds of it arriving at my website. Sorry if this
is a little off-topic now, but it kind of relates to my
initial thread. I'd like to follow up on this thread in
the future, by displaying my own results, but finding out
exactly when the freshbot arrives is important for my
analysis :)
Thanks again!
[phphacks.com...]
...is a link to a PHP script to detect GoogleBot and email a preset email address to notify you - i expect its not rocket-science to alter it for any 'bot ;-)
Relating to being found via a "link relationship"....this is absolutely the way to go...
If your site is new there may be no absolute definitive way to get indexed within 72 hours...HOWEVER...there are occasions when "freshbot" will actually grab some pages from a brand new site and slap those in the search engine results pages...this appears to be a randon event and I wouldn't spend time trying to figure this out...
"freshbot" is a relatively new addition to Google's arsenal for indexing the web and represents a process where Google is looking for fresh content on a daily basis from "established" sites and occasionally grabs data from a newbie...
The best strategy to use initially is this:
If you can't negotiate a link from a well placed, well visited, well crawled site that is related to your site's theme then the next step is to do the following:
Submit your site for inclusion to dmoz.org (the human editor directory)...do this first...it's a difficult process and if there are multiple sites selling your services or products...you may not make it in..
NEXT...
Get listed over at Yahoo (yes you will have to pay the annual $299 to be "reviewed"...there's no guarantee that your site will be included)...however...if you follow there submission process closely you should be able to get in..
Google always looks at sites that make it into these two directories...dmoz.org..because of the immense referrals you can experience from being listed and...Yahoo...because of the excellent "HUGE" incoming link structure to the online resource...
In the meantime, while you are waiting for Googlebot to pick you up (and everyone faces this same process when bringing new content into the fold) .... continue to develop out your site and work on those incoming link relationships...the more you have established when Google actually finds you the better you will do when your site qualifies via the deepcrawl...
Good Luck...
Get a link from at least one site Google likes (crawls regularly), get listed in the permanent index after a cycle of one deepcrawl and one update. That's it. There's no way to speed it up nor to really screw it up if you do both things.
I have had new pages show up as soon as 3 days, but typically 2 to 4 weeks.
