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The recipient sites are now dominating the SERPS as a result <snip>. Whats worse is that out of the few companies that are dominating the serps 5 or 6 are owned by the same person/company. All pretty much with duplicate content(different templates).
This site selling text links will sell link to anyone provided they pay in excess of $4000 per month.
They dont "SELL" PR like search king did but its obvious what they are doing.
Is this an acceptable practice these days?
[edited by: NFFC at 7:09 pm (utc) on Jan. 28, 2003]
[edit reason] No specifics please [/edit]
You will go broke long before you ever achieved your goals. One link (for $4,000) does not fix a web site (a thousand of these would help though @ 4 million).
In addition, anyone with "free" (normally obtained) links and a learning curve of knowledge will surpass Paid-for PageRank every time.
[edited by: fathom at 10:16 pm (utc) on Jan. 28, 2003]
On the other hand, they get millions of unique visitors per day. They never mention PR although you'd have to be a fool to think they are unaware of it.
The way they market their ad is to refer to their millions of visitors.
Are they doing anything wrong? Why shouldn't they sell their ads? Why should they be penalized? I don't know, but I am curious if Google find a problem with this, and if they find it, would they penalize the PR9 site or the advertisers or both?
Also, I imagine it's pretty hard for a PR9 site with millions of visitors to hide from Google for long...especially since the ads are in very competitive categories, so you'd think Google got spam reports already and ignored it....
What I'm talking about is Google keeping a database of just PR9-10 pages (there can't be more than 1,000 or so, right?) and running tests on them to see how many have external outbound links to other sites.... assume 10% do. You telling me they can't check 100 or so pages by hand every once in a while to make sure there is no fishy page rank sales going on? And that's assuming no one snitches you out and files a spam report telling google there is some page rank buying go on at pr10site.com
Sure they can. That's why I don't think I would ever buy text links on a PR9-10 site... too risky. Maybe a PR7-8 because there are too many to check. If I had enough links from these sites, I could get PR7-8 myself and be much more inconsipcious.
But US$4000/month seems insane.
People here talk about trading for links and bartering all the time. There really is little difference between this and flat out paying. Either way it's manipulating PR and it ain't free (unless you consider your time and website real estate worthless).
You don't need a PR 9 page to sell pagerank influencing ads - links on 1000 PR 5 pages (a discussion forum or an archive, for example) will also be quite effective.
EXACTLY! ...and moreso.
1 PR9 link has 1 anchor.
1000 PR5 links have 1000 anchors, and out performing PageRank if mostly from 1000 unique sites. This develops off-page relevancy to the on-topic theme.
In addition, 1000 links is much more credible (not saying a PR9 page isn't credible - it is). It's far more difficult to manipulate 1000 links from other sites than one - and one reason why a PR5 page can beat a PR7 page in SERPs.
Nervous_seo spoke about a site that "sells" links for $4k without any further info. I guess, they don't sell ONE link but many links...
Well, if they sell too many links, the PR of their outbound links will be diluted--and the suckers who bought in early are going to be awfully annoyed. :-)
and the suckers who bought in early are going to be awfully annoyed
;) :) :(
