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darkroom

3:18 am on Jan 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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hey sup guyss
i have made like 100 backward links for my site...but how do i get google to crawl those links and give me a higher page rank?
Thanks
Bob

pendanticist

3:28 am on Jan 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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i have made like 100 backward links for my site

When you say you made them, how do you mean?

I ask because if I take you literally as though they resided on your server and you're pointing them to your main page, that may not be a good idea.

Pendanticist.

darkroom

3:34 am on Jan 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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i mean that i went to other 100 sites...and i put my website link on their websites...so in total i did 100...but google isn't crawling those links
what do i do to get those links crawled?
thanks
Bob

pendanticist

3:57 am on Jan 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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i mean that i went to other 100 sites...and i put my website link on their websites...so in total i did 100

Should I assume these sites were link farms? I mean, you say you 'put them there', which suggests link farms - while my experience tells me a 'normal' submission process takes a bit longer.

I have to ask because these are important distinctions. If they are link farms you might have a problem with Google as a result. From what I understand she doesn't like link farms at all.

...but google isn't crawling those links what do i do to get those links crawled?

I'm not sure you have any control over how, or when Google crawls any other site.

Here's my take on Google and backlinks. When Google (et., al.) crawls those sites she/they finds the links to you and then crawls your site and adjusts to whatever Page Rank (PR) that may equate to.

There may be others here who have more detailed information, so don't take my response as Gospel.

Pendanticist.

darkroom

4:09 am on Jan 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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no they are not link farms...i went to 100 different sites..and sent them email for link exchange...and all of them did link exchange with me...they are all quality links...all have over PR 5
thanks
bob

pendanticist

4:29 am on Jan 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Ah, ok Cool.

Like I said:

I'm not sure you have any control over how, or when Google crawls any other site.

Maybe someone else will weigh in on this if you need more info.

Once you read up on Google you'll understand why I asked those questions. From what I understand Google can be very fussy about sites linking soley for the sake of Page Rank (PR). So much so, that folks who have done this lost their newly found PR as a result of bad practices.

Might I suggest you read up on what they have in the Google group for more info.

Pendanticist.

klatschaffe

12:21 am on Jan 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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AFAIK reciprocal linking has no effect on PR since all major SE are able to detect them within their linkanalysis. Assuming those links are only built to boost PR or LP they ignore reciprocal Links.

ciml

12:39 pm on Jan 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Bob, those links will be counted after one or two updates [webmasterworld.com] from when they were added. If the pages that link to you are PR5, then they should show in a link: search at that time.

clarksc3

2:38 pm on Jan 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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[klatschaffe: reciprocal linking has no effect on PR since all major SE are...]

Are your sure about this? I have over 200 websites and alomost all my link with other are reciprocal. And the ones with more reciprocal links have higher PR. All of my sites have he same amount of content with the same layout too.

klatschaffe

1:12 am on Jan 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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clarksc3,
I'm not sure about this, but I heard about it. Also it's really easy for a Search Engine to find those reciprocal links, and as they are only made on to boost linkpopularity I think they filter them out. If they don't they at least don't weigh them as strong as they do with "real" links.
Are there any other Links to your Page, is it listed in any directoy? what about the on-page factors? how competitive is the keyword, you optimized it for?

Mohamed_E

1:20 am on Jan 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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> Also it's really easy for a Search Engine to find those reciprocal links, and as they are only made on to boost linkpopularity I think they filter them out.

I know perfectly well that Google does not filter out my reciprocal links. In the world of informational sites reciprocal links are perfectly legitimate, if my site discusses widgets and yours does, it is very appropriate for me to link to you and vice versa.

klatschaffe

11:53 pm on Jan 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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ok so am i right that links exchanged between different domains are good for LP an PR
and links exchanged between pages within the same domain are ignored?

MetropolisRobot

12:04 am on Jan 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

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no i believe that links within a website do count (i see some of my competitors have awesome link counts from this) but that stuffing links for PR manipulation may not be wise at all.

Basically you *may* be rewarded for having a well linked (and therefore more easily navigable) site, but don't over do it.

As people say "design the site for humans" because in the end no matter how many search engines spider your site and what PR you get, your site is only any good if people linger there. If they come to your site and then leave immediately, no matter what your SE rank, you still are losing business.

JayC

12:36 am on Jan 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

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ok so am i right that links exchanged between different domains are good for LP an PR
and links exchanged between pages within the same domain are ignored?

Nope.

Reciprocated links bring in PageRank just as non-reciprocated links do. While you're right that search engines could detect them and just count them as offsetting each other, I've never heard of any doing so.

Of course, PageRank is only one consideration. Other parts of the ranking algorithms ("hub score," etc.) might be affected by various linking strategies. But the conversation here is about PageRank, and the only factors in that calculation of the PageRank of the linking page itself, and how many outbound links it has.