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If I'm not in www2 or www3 now...must wait another month?

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Alphawolf

8:26 am on Dec 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hi folks,

Have a new site up...I was crawled by Googlebot a few weeks ago. Site has been live for about 1 month. I know it's realistic to be very patient and expect a 2 mos wait.

But when I saw Googlebot a couple weeks ago- I thought I may get into this next index.

I checked www2 and www3 and I ain't nowhere to be found.

I know I have at least 6 inbound links and the inbound links do not show on www2 or www3 yet either.

If I'm not in www2 or www3 as of early this AM- 12/28, does that mean I'll probably need to wait until next month?

How often does Google update www2 and www3?

TIA

Alphawolf

Beachboy

8:30 am on Dec 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Welcome to WebmasterWorld!

Your site should have been included by now by the Freshbot. When Google does its regular monthly update (Tonight? Tomorrow?), odds are very good you will find your site on www2 and www3. Patience.

Alphawolf

8:56 am on Dec 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>>>Your site should have been included by now by the Freshbot. When Google does its regular monthly update (Tonight? Tomorrow?), odds are very good you will find your site on www2 and www3. Patience.<<<

:-D

Thanks...that would be mondo cool.

AW

Zapatista

9:15 am on Dec 28, 2002 (gmt 0)



Dec. 12 I bought a new domain

Dec.15, I uploaded my new site

Dec. 16-20, Obtained about 25 high quality reciprocal links. This was done through web-sites I've traded links with in the past. They know me, my field and were comfortable trading links with me again - even on a new site.

Dec. 22 I was appearing in Google thanks to the Freshbot with some fairly good ranking on minor keywords. Of course, my PageRank bar is gray, but only until the update.

Dec. 22 - present, working on more high quality reciprocal links.

I am anxious to see how I will do when the update appears. But I am sure they didn't find all my links.

My suggestion, get yourself some good quality reciprocal links.

Zapatista

9:26 am on Dec 28, 2002 (gmt 0)



Let me add that I am talking about being included in the www. results, ranked #74 out 140,000 results on a site with a grey bar.

And I never bothered to go to the google submit page.

Alphawolf

6:00 pm on Dec 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Just to clarify...

Company or ISP : Google Inc. US,CA
IP Range : 216.239.46.0 - 216.239.46.255
Total Visits : 52

Sun Dec 08th, 2002 14
Mon Dec 09th, 2002 21
Tue Dec 10th, 2002 15
Wed Dec 11th, 2002 2

There are two IP's Googlebot uses? Which one are these critters?

I haven't gotten a visit from Google since then. Nothing has changed on my site, but I have picked up a couple more links.

I still cannot find my site nor the inbound links to it via www2 or www3.

AW

javascripter

6:06 pm on Dec 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hey peoples,

What is www2 and www3? I've been patiently waiting for my site to be listed in Google and it's a no-go. I'm getting worried. I may have over optimized this sucker beyond the limits of googlebot. :)

How do I know if I've been included in www2 or ww3. Is there a way to find out?

Ken

javascripter

6:09 pm on Dec 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Just figured the www2 and www3 out. Typed it into my browser. So if my site isn't listed in either one of these, I'm going to have to continue waiting another month? Anyone know for sure?

Thanks,

Ken Eynon

hetzeld

6:10 pm on Dec 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Ken,

Just go to www2 or www3.google.com and search for your domain

Dan

PS: too late ;)

javascripter

6:13 pm on Dec 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Oops I also failed to mention that the site was previously listed by the old webdeveloper. Her listing is still in google and has been there for almost a month after I changed it.

I have several reciprical links too.

Thanks again,

Ken

Alphawolf

6:14 pm on Dec 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



>Dec. 16-20, Obtained about 25 high quality reciprocal
>links. This was done through web-sites I've traded links
>with in the past. They know me, my field and were
> comfortable trading links with me again - even on a new
>site.

This is very difficult given the nature of my site. See my email addy in profile for url.

>Dec. 22 I was appearing in Google thanks to the Freshbot
>with some fairly good ranking on minor keywords. Of
>course, my PageRank bar is gray, but only until the
>update.

Well, I've followed guidelines from another popular SEO website. I haven't done anything out of the ordinary. However, my key phrases are probably the most difficult to get listed under- ranking well. I don't expect to get ranked well at all.

I just want to get in the index. Submitted to Dmoz about 1 month ago...

>Dec. 22 - present, working on more high quality reciprocal
> links.

I'm trying. Highest PR site I've found I can get a link from is an association. It would be a banner ad plus a straight text link among many others- PR of 8. Costs $100 just to "advertise" with them.

>I am anxious to see how I will do when the update appears.
> But I am sure they didn't find all my links.

Yes...SEO requires huge amounts of patience to see results of hard work.

>My suggestion, get yourself some good quality reciprocal
> links.

Trying- very tough in my business. That's why so many use Overture/AdWords... :(

Alphawolf

semick

7:20 pm on Dec 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



This is what I can say from my experience:

Freshbot may or may not include pages from your site(s). I have several sites in Google, one of which has 44,000+ pages indexed, the another 6,000+ pages indexed. (dynamic sites using XQASP). The other sites are dynamic, but not using XQASP and have 100 - 500 pages indexed in general. Anyway I have 8 sites total I am working with. I montitor Googlebot in the logs, and track SE referers and keywords with script right in the websites.

The largest site, with the 44,000+ links used to get new pages showing up with the freshbot - I could see when I added a group the Googlebot following the links, and within maybe a week, the pages would show up, and then dissappear. This does not seem to be happening anymore within the last 2 months. I added links to products by vendor, and vendors listed in the site map also, and they did show up within the next Google update, but never with freshbot.

I would say if you got the site up and running and indexed within 2 weeks prior to an update, you are probably in. I have put sites up and gotten them crawled 1 week prior to an update and the site did not show up until the 2nd update.

Scott

p.s. If you have any advertising budget, maybe you might want to try a few adwords - make sure you try figure out your ROI on each one.

javascripter

8:23 pm on Dec 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I don't have that many pages on the website so I guess I shouldn't worry so much. I have about 60 pages. Another thing I noticed is that Google indexed 4 other websites I've been working on. Those pages haven't been updated for almost a month. They are cached wrong. That's the only way I know that Google hasn't run an update. The cache is wrong on all 5 of my websites that I submitted and were indexed over a month ago. Maybe tonight is the night.

Ken

Alphawolf

8:59 pm on Jan 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Scott,

>>>I would say if you got the site up and running and indexed within 2 weeks prior to an update, you are probably in. I have put sites up and gotten them crawled 1 week prior to an update and the site did not show up until the 2nd update.<<<

Just to finish off this thread...

Every single page of my website (small) has been indexed and cached on www2.

It hasn't migrated to the main google DB yet though. Also, I didn't see anything on www2 until January 1st...but didn't check it Dec 31st.

>>>p.s. If you have any advertising budget, maybe you might want to try a few adwords - make sure you try figure out your ROI on each one.<<<

I use Overture and prefer it over AdWords. My client's experience have been the same.

Regards,

AW