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Home Page PR6, deep pages PR0?

         

wildside

5:33 am on Dec 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

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My first website is 100% public service. I built it in '93 or so, added pages for a couple of years, then mostly just left it alone. thus, all pages are pretty stale.

The heart of the site is a tutorial page. This tutorial ends with permission to republish the tutorial so long as it is not altered. As a result there are hundreds of identical or near identical copies of that page all over the internet.

The home page of this site is PR6. The home page links to every deep page and every deep page links to the home page. All links are text links with embedded keywords.

Every deep page is PR0. How can this be? Isn't the weight of the home page link enough to at least provide a PR1 to every page?

I wrote to google and all they said was "you are in our index."

Google loves fresh content, so I'm thinking that maybe the staleness of the pages is responsible. Or maybe it's the multiple identical copies of the tutorial.

Thoughts?

Susanne

9:38 am on Dec 14, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I will take the opportunity to address a similar question. I work on a site with PR5 on the index page and 3 or 4 on inner pages. But there are many pages with e greyed out toolbar evn though those pages are in Google's index!
The site is six months old.
Waddaya think?

CuriousWeb

11:05 pm on Dec 16, 2002 (gmt 0)

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hey wildside

>Or maybe it's the multiple identical copies of the tutorial.

I think that is likely to be your problem.

Susanne - ummm not sure on that one I'm afraid. Is the content updated regularly?

Visit Thailand

11:09 pm on Dec 16, 2002 (gmt 0)

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It could be the number of pages. we have a pr 8 and it has around 10/15,000 pages many of these are white tool bar some pr1. None of these pages though are linked directly to from the home page.

wildside

1:17 am on Dec 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

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> maybe it's the multiple identical copies of the tutorial.

That was my opinion, also.

I wrote to Google specifically asking if I was getting a spam penalty for that page, and, since I am the original author I asked if the penalty could be removed. I got what I think is a boilerplate reply that didn't address the identical page issue:

"There are various reasons why the deep pages on your site have a PageRank of 0. Most commonly this is because these pages have not been indexed. "

This isn't killing me. I don't have a profit motive with this site. But I'd sure like to understand it and fix it so the tutorial is better publicized.

btw, I should add that I have never submitted those deep pages. I rarely submit pages at all, and when I do it's usually only the page. I'll try submitting them in a few weeks, but for now I just want to watch and see what happens. (I have refreshed content on a couple of pages and I want to see what happens next time they crawl.)

Susanne

9:55 am on Dec 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

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CuriousWeb,
Well, we have new pages going on every month. The site has a section called "The Magazine", which publishes new articles and other types of pages every month.
However, part of the site is dynamic. Google has been able to cache some dynamic pages (with relatively simple URLs) but none of the articles (which have very complicated URLs). And even though a few pages are static, some still don't have any pagerank yet.
Suppose we just have to be patient... We only went from PR 4 to 5 on the main page in the last update.

CuriousWeb

12:57 pm on Dec 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Susanne - If that's the case I think you are probably right...patience is always a virtue with Google ;)

Visit Thailand

12:59 pm on Dec 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I do not think it is a static /dynamic issue, all of our pages are static.

jayq

5:10 pm on Dec 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I have some sites that have a PR0 index and PR1> on inside pages. Anyone else seen this happen?