Not Indexed Yet - New to this stuff

[webdude]

Sorry for being a novice with this, I am just starting out with search engines and need some advice and/or help.

I noticed posts that stated the dance for google has begun but I still cannot see my site. Does this take a while? All last month I was getting crawled daily and my site would be there one day and gone the next. Is there a way to see if it is indexed? I installed the google toolbar and the PageRank is not greyed out but the bar is and I get "Current page not ranked by Google". Any references to the site is from other reciprocal sites that point back to mine.

Just trying to do this right! I have at least 7 quality links back to my site.

Thanks

jmm

Sorry, I removed the URL. Is posting a URL here permissable? If not I apologize!

Thanks

[jdMorgan]

WebDude,

Welcome to WebmasterWorld! [webmasterworld.com]

You can put your URL in your profile if you want to.

If your site is newer than November 3rd or so, then it has not been deep-crawled yet. The deep-crawling for December has now begun, and your site should get picked up.

What you have probably been seeing in your site logs is the "fresh-bot", also known as "minty". New pages found by the freshbot may appear in the Google index and then pop in and out of the search results for up to two months. In other words, freshbot listings are temporary. If it doesn't revisit your site within 3 days, your pages will likely be dropped. Then, when it comes back again, your pages will show up in the results again.

What you should be interested in is the deep-crawl. If you missed the last one, around the beginning of November, then you're not "in" yet. If the deep-crawler spiders your site this week, the results will show up at the beginning of next month - January.

In the meantime, you'll likely still get some traffic from the temporary freshbot listings. Don't panic, and just hang in there for a few more weeks. Good things take time...

Do a WebmasterWorld site search for "everflux" and "fresh" for more info. Once you get up to speed on the freshbot, check out this thread [webmasterworld.com] for a good idea on what to do while you wait for a "permanent" listing. Just don't get carried away with it...

Jim

[webdude]

Thanks for the reply. I have been reading these posts and find the information very informative.

[ciml]

I think Jim's covered just about everything. I'll only add that if you continue to get "Current page not ranked by Google" and Google doesn't return a listing for a search of www.yourdomain.com for two Google updates [webmasterworld.com] then there may have been a hosting problem.

[webdude]

What I don't get is the fact that the domain name with the www. in front is ranked. Just the domain name is greyed out. What gives with that?

And the site shows up on google with the www in front, but I never submitted it that way nor are any recip links listed that way. Does google just automatically put the www in front. I see other sites without the www.

I guess I just don't get it.

[ciml]

Google doesn't generally do that, if both URLs are linked then usually the one with the best links (PR) stays, and the other is merged.

What URL does Google list at the top of each cache page?

[webdude]

there is only 1 cached page as far as I can tell and it lists the domain with the www. in front.

www.<domain>.com
ranked at 0

<domain>.com
not ranked nor found on google

[edited by: ciml at 6:39 pm (utc) on Dec. 4, 2002]

[ciml]

I have a theory. Imagine that there is a page somewhere, with no or very little PR, linking to www.domain.com. Then, the server is temporarily down when Google visits domain.com but not www.domain.com. In that case, only the www version would be listed with no PageRank, while the non-www version is missing.

As I say, just a theory.

[webdude]

Yeh, but I haven't been down for months. I can't figure how google got www.

sorry about the domain names. I will refrain from posting them.