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I am the webmaster of the site www.example.com and till recently i was doing 1 for "specific keyphrase" 8 for "less specific keyphrase" and 11 for "keyphrase" on google.
This google update, my site has been wiped out from google totally...even the cache is gone..I suspect that I may have overdone "keyphrase" on my page.
Needless to say, my business is hit very hard and this is an unbelievably distressing situation.
Can someone please help me out by looking at my site and seeing if I have overdone the keywords...I had added one extra "keyphrase" last week. Can I expect a repreive from google in the future or has my site gone out *forever*? What can I do for that..?
Please help!
Thanks
Amit Khetan
[edited by: heini at 2:53 pm (utc) on Dec. 1, 2002]
[edit reason] Sorry - no urls & specifics as per TOS & Charter allowed ¦ thanks! [/edit]
In any case, can someone help me out by telling me if a dropped site is banned forever? Or it can reappear in the next update?
As of now, I can get my result on google by only typing my url directly..I am even monitoring my logs, but no google traffic..the cached page is also removed for my site
How do I get back into google for my relevant keywords?
thanks
forgot to add...I checked for my site in www2.google.com www3.google.com, and everflux.com and it is not there
The fact that you can type your domain and find your site in Google means you are not banned.
Likely - your site in new to google - and Google does not penalizes sites for "just being new", however, if you do not have any backlinks (e.g. - other sites pointing to you) you will not survive for long in Google.
Highly recommend to start looking for reciprocal links on your web site topics.
A good place to start is DMOZ.org and it is best to start with reviewing DMOZ submission Guidelines [dmoz.org].
If/when you are listed here - this will help develop your ranked position.
Sorry about putting specific url in the message
My first post here was a url drop in Google too ;) -- Don't worry about, just enjoy yourself. WebmasterWorld is a cool place to hang out...
Nick
Nick
overwhelmed by the warm welcome and mails from soapystar..
actually I think I did a poor job of describing my problem:
My site was listed in Google since about January this year...every update, there was some fluctuation for my three top keywords, but the site was more or less there...also the word "cached" appeared next to the url, which showed google's cache of my site..
I had around 120 linkbacks which showed with link:www.mysitename.com (already a veteran poster at WW! - no namedrops!)
This update, my site stopped showing in the top 15 *pages* for my keywords...monitoring my logs showed that google's referrals to my site phutted out in the middle of the 'dance'.
The linkbacks have been reduced to 20 (though they are still there - is that a positive sign?)...basically the other 80 were links from my internal pages....
I can access listing of my site on Google by typing a) my url or b) exact words of my url but not for any of my keywords on any of the top 15 pages..also this entry *DOES NOT* have my traditional description, title, etc which has more or less remained constant throughout 7-8 month, even during updates as I keep meta and titles constant...it shows the description and title of my DMOZ listing..also the "cached" link is missing...when i try to see the "cached copy" of my site via the google bar also, it says, no cache...this has never happened before...even during the dance..it shows either the old or new cache..
As I have not changed my contents at all in the last 7 days (except for one stray keyword insertion), I can't figure out why this can happen.....except that I had my keyword on my homepage around 12 times...on a 50 kb (html) page
Is this some sort of penalization that google has done? Because if the only way I can turn up my site is via a url search, then it is not of much use, specially since my site is one year old on google, already has linkbacks and enjoyed decent traffic...and had maintained page one listings for a lot of keywords so far...
Maybe this is not ban of my site, but what can cause such a drastic downgrading of my site is what I can't understand...
I suspect that the listing which I am getting from entering my url is the listing of DMOZ....basically I had read that if google cannot find even a halfway decent match for a keyword in its database, then it shows DMOZ results if they are a direct match...
thanks so much for the patience with my problem...
ciao
Amit Khetan
I have been advised to ask help from Google Guy...are you there...? and can you please help me...?
The loss of my internal links in google results (link tools) my title, description and abstract is something pretty strange...and the fact that my ranks have gone off the top 10 *pages* when they were in top 10 results a few days back...I have not changed my site in the last week...
Google Guy help!
thanks
Amit Khetan
Google has an algo. Sometimes it changes emphasis. If your web site doesn't have enough pages to roll with the change, you drop.
If your incoming links experience a lower PR, you drop.
If other websites come on board with stronger relevance for your keywords, you drop.
If you have too much badly coded JavaScript/HTML, you may not be adequately spidered, you drop.
Any number of things can cause this to happen, and if you watch the serps, you see it happening every month to other people.
According to what the others are posting, your web site is not banned or penalized.
If that's the case, what do you want Google to do for you? Give you a special break because you're a special guy and this is a special case?
First thing to do is chill out. Review your seo strategy. Determine what you may have overdone and underdone. And fix it. This place is a fabulous resource filled with great people and many many answers to many many questions.
In the meantime, until you have properly optimized your web site, if you are losing money, there's always AdWords. Sometimes you have to spend money to make money.
Of course there's always the option of hiring an seo expert to help you with this as well. It depends on the ROI.
yup, WebmasterWorld is really a great place and I am glad i came across it..the articles are amazing and the people are helpful...
btw I meant advise from Google Guy, not help from Google
Actually my content is basically the same for about 3 weeks, my PR is 5 and all the top 20 results are old timers whom I carefully monitor...for about 1 yr...and I have not done any cloak and dagger stuff on my site of late...can it really fall 129 positions for the reasons you mentioned? I am aware that Google employs about 100 factors for ranking, and I am reasonably sure that none of the parametres (e.g. link backs for example) for my site have gone ka-pow all of a sudden, or so many people have suddenly gained so much on me....
Anyway, it is a relief to know that it is not banned, but i cannot think of any other reason other than a penalty which explains such a huge fall all of a sudden...it has stayed in the top 10 for over 8 - 9 months with the same keywords and similar contents....
thanks for reading this post and for posting your earlier reply..
It can be down during the dance, and have no problems. but was it down at all during the first week of November during the main crawl.
If you miss the crawl, you miss the update. Google has to calculate over 100 factors for ove 3 billion pages, it takes them most of the month to do this. The update that showed up on the 28th, started around November 2.
That would explain the use of the DMOZ description for your site and your missing internal backlinks.
You could have also taken a hit from off-site factors. If one of your main incoming links got dropped, or if they were hit with a penalty.
It's a good reminder not to put all your eggs in the Google basket. i get about a third of my traffic from bookmarks, a third from outside links and the rest from search engines. So even if Google completely lost me for a month, i would still get at least two thirds of my traffic--and my best traffic at that.
You say your page was cached before and is not any more. This happened to me a few months ago, when I messed with my robots.txt and disallowed all bots; after I fixed that, the page was crawled and reappeared.
I think that there was some problem at the time that the bot tried to access your site (even if your servers were up, there are other reasons - a bad router somewhere - which might have prevented googlebot from reaching you).
What I would do (you say your pages were ranking well) before doing any major changes is to wait for the next update and see if your pages donīt reappear.
