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leef50

6:59 pm on Nov 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Right, I have just created a site that I am about to launch. I have 2 sites already (both have homepage PR of 5 and internal pages of 4) which will link back to the new site.

How long should it take for google to start spidering the website and what do you think the PR will be since the link backs from these sites will be on the homepage and will be the only outgoing links on those pages. Once I make the first dance, does this mean the PR will be a 5 also for the new site or does it not work that way?

Obviously I wont have much success with recip links until I am listed in google cus of the greyed PR bar (if they are looking) so I am looking to get a presence on google with a decent PR before looking for recip links. Site will be submitted to DMOZ and then maybe Yahoo! at a later date once funds have been built up.

Just mainly wondering about the timescales and default PR and PR changes from 2 links from PR5 with no other outbounds. (the new site will not link back to the other two).

Cheers

LeeF50

mayor

7:30 pm on Nov 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

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leef50, I think you're playing with fire doing artificial link manipulation to kick off a new site. Make the wrong move and you can earn a nice permanent PR0 for all of the sites in this comfy little link farmette. It's a shortcut I can't recommend.

If your new site has some real substance, you shouldn't find it hard to go get a few relevant or complementary link exchanges from independent sites on the web, even sites that have PR4 and 5. They're likely to be your first sources of targeted traffic, too.

Get those external links and within a few weeks you should find a hungry Googlebot following them to feast upon your new site, and then start drawing Google traffic on the next update, and maybe even sooner under the freshbot program.

To be realistic about getting a permanent place in their data base, and regular traffic, I would give the whole process three months. Hit the timing just right and you might do it in two months.

jdMorgan

7:44 pm on Nov 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

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leef50,

The timing will be "just right" this week...

Mayor is warning that the links from your currently-listed sites to your new site should be on-topic and useful to a visitor. Otherwise, they may be seen as artificial link manipulation - a practice frowned on by SEs as "spammy" since it doesn't make the web more useful.

As to PR, you can reasonably expect the PR on the new page to be a PR4 if it has links from a few PR5 pages, but that's only if the PR5 pages which link to it don't have many other outgoing links. (That PR4 is just a guess - I don't focus very hard on PR myself).

The main point of this post is that the update is coming soon, so get those relevant links up soon. If you miss this update, then it's going to be February before you get a solid listing. The update schedule varies, but I'm finishing the update of my stuff now.

HTH,
Jim

BigDave

7:45 pm on Nov 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I don't see any problem with it if they are one way links, and only from 2 sites.

It is almost impossible to guess at the PR, because I am assuming that you are still linking to your internal pages from your home pages. If you dropped all your internal links from those 2 PR5 pages and only had one link per page, you would probably end up aeith a PR5 on your new page. But you will then kill off the PR on your internal pages and probably lose your incoming links.

Just try it, using one way links and wait 2 months.

kfander

7:57 pm on Nov 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I know that a lot of people (here) will let a site's PR determine whether or not they'll link to it, but a whole lot of webmasters don't care, or even look to see another site's PR. I look, but I won't let a gray toolbar keep me from linking to a site that adds something that might be of use to my visitors, particularly if I can see that it's a new site and not likely one that has earned a ban. If you have content, you'll find people willing to link to you, and I think it's well worth the effort.

mayor

9:51 pm on Nov 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>>I don't see any problem with it if they are one way links, and only from 2 sites.

If you sin on one site, even un-intentionally, your competitor may convince Google otherwise and follow those links to point out all the birds of this "bad" feather.

If your sites are relevant, and so squeaky clean even your competitor can't find something to complain about, then go ahead.