Freshbot/EverFlux/PermIndex

Looking for more clarification...?

[RockLobstaar]

Hey all :)

I've read a few threads about everflux and google's indexing process...however i'm still confused...and as i read in one of (iirc) brett tabkes uber-posts: lurking and reading is not near as useful as posting...so here goes:

What is the deal with google?
What i've been reading sounds oh so confusing.

This is what i've gathered:

Google sends a freshbot around all the time to test out changing/new sites and then rank them and put them up on google's search results.
However, google has a hard index bot that makes the permanent index (based on sites the freshbot has visited?)which is a sites "real" ranking.
So, getting up to number 1-10 on the freshbot isn't that important ... because those results are always changing.
What really matters is getting up high in the results of the perm-index.

This seems contradictory to me.
Shouldn't i simply aim at keeping the freshbot visiting and listing me high?
What is the point in being perm-indexed as a high rank when all the freshbot sites take you over on the search results every day?

I'm assuming i'm missing some huge chunk of info, so please, lemme know. :)

Rocky

<edit>Ok, i just read this awesome post from Marcia with some compilations from a bunch of these questions...that helped a lot (i'd link it but i forgot to copy it :-P)
I'm still wondering then: do everflux results only show up on google (not partner sites)? and is this whacky google ranking only during the middle of a month when google is doing a major indexing (wherein, at the rest of the month, the hard index results are up?)</edit>

[irock]

The way Google does fresh spidering encourages websites to post more content. To stay at high ranks, your pages must have new stuff. At least that's from what I've seen so far.

BTW, freshbot also doesn't seem to affect the rankings of some very competitive keyword SERP.

[Marcia]

Some of the previous discussions were tied together in this thread [webmasterworld.com]

RL, this is the goal

What really matters is getting up high in the results of the perm-index.

I just saw a site move up a few notches for a few search terms that's of tremendous advantage, but I don't know why; there was nothing changed that would have caused it. It's a site that's got fresh crawling and is changed frequently, though it wasn't for the past two freshes. Yet I've got a couple of sites that get freshened and they're never touched, particularly on the index page.

It's nice to get in mid-cyle with a good ranking, but the monthly update seems to be a much more reliable indicator.