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submit site with different URL

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spinweb

12:35 pm on Nov 21, 2002 (gmt 0)

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My site ranks 26th at Google for a certain keyword. I reviewed the 3 top ranked sites at Google for this keyword and found that the only real difference between our sites in terms of SEO was that they had the keyword in their URL.

If I buy a URL with the keyword in it, then submit the site under that URL to Google, how will Google handle that? Will they see that the site is already there under another URL and consider it spamming? What can I expect? Thanks.

ukgimp

12:51 pm on Nov 21, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hello Spinweb and welcome to WebmasterWorld

I would not waste your time in trying to buy a keyword specific URL. They dont count for much these days. You would be better adding new content to your existing domain and event think about restructuring your page/html to maximise on your keywords. You should also concentrate on getting on topic links to your site from others.

Never dupicate sites or content just work on your original. Read the forums here on how to improve your rakings there wil be loads.

Ask loads of questions also, pretty helpful bunch here really.

Cheers and good luck

spinweb

1:02 pm on Nov 21, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for your help, great to be on board.

quiet_man

1:18 pm on Nov 21, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hi Spinweb, and welcome!
I have to disagree with ukgimp on one point, but it is a specific one - keywords in URL DO count, but only for the reason that when sites link to you they tend to use your domain name, so if your keywords are in your domain then these keywords are used as the link text. All other things being equal (and they never are), if your site and your competitor's site/s have an equal amount of good on-page SEO, then the quality and quantity of in-bound links will determine which site is listed higher in Google. That's why inbound links - and the anchor text they use - really count.
Your case is difficult - you already have a site ranked in Google. Attempting to place the same site under a different, keyword-rich domain, would risk duplication and Google won't like that. I don't know what to recommend, except maybe a lot of reading of other threads in this Google forum and also maybe the Reciprocal Linkage forum.

rogerd

1:31 pm on Nov 21, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Welcome, Spinweb! Here's an idea - change the NAME of your website, but not the domain. E.g., if you are Acme Manufacturing, your domain is acmemanufacturing.com, and you make widgets, change all identifying info on the site to Acme Widgets. If someone arrives at the site, they should immediately conclude that they have arrived at Acme Widgets. You will find that most NEW links will now contain the keyword "widgets". Some linkers will use the domain name or even the full URL as the link text, but most won't. You could even contact your existing links and request a change to the new site name.

This isn't an instant fix, but might give you the boost you need over a period of time. As others have suggested, work on content, work on new linkage, etc. - that will do you the most good in the long run.

ukgimp

1:33 pm on Nov 21, 2002 (gmt 0)

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that when sites link to you they tend to use your domain name

That is a good point you made, one I had never thought of.

It is the case though that KW domains are not what they were. Which to a certain extent is a good thing. I avoid sites that have

buy-cheap-doo-dars-uk.com

They look cheap and spammy to me.

Cheers

quiet_man

2:19 pm on Nov 21, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>>They look cheap and spammy to me<<

Agreed!

steveb

1:15 am on Nov 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Don't make duplicate sites, that is a road to trouble.

Keywords in a domain are the #1 most important thing today, but they might not be next month. Keywords in a domain will always be helpful somewhat though, whether it is in the algo itself, or in link text, or just because other sites are more likely to link to a domain that seems on topic.

The solution you are looking for is to get the keyword domain, set up as an entirely different site with unique content (even if probably a lot smaller than your current site), get links to it in a normal fashion, and see what happens.