Google has my urls combined!

If you have multiple urls using the same store, could be big trouble.

[Phil_S]

Hello,
I have a big problem. You may too if you have more then one url sharing the same site.

We went into business in 1996 on the internet. We have always had great success in the search engines.

When we first started we had one url (url-one.com), really didn't like this one, everyone got it wrong. Then got another (url-2.net) still had problems with people remembering it so got another (url-3.com) same problem.

Well, we found a great url, easy to remember and was perfect for the type of products we sell (greaturl.com)

Submitted it. Got indexed and great traffic.

Well, in May 2002 Google dumped all new url pages and combined all old urls, and started picking up the first url.

I immediately separated them to their own IP address, and set up a permanent redirects into the new url, (as it's listed on the Google help page for changing urls,) hoping to get (newurl.com) back in the index.

4 months later Google still had all my urls combined.

Removed OLD urls with Google removal tool.

And got my newest URL penalized big time. Now we have a gray bar and no back links.

Anyone have any idea how to fix this problem.

What does Google do with urls that share the same web site? Do they ban these urls forever?

thanks,
Phil

[Brett_Tabke]

Describe what you mean by "urls combined". I don't get that.

[crash]

I'm gonna take a stab here.. sounds like you have had multiple urls over the life of the site. It also sounds like instead of dropping the old ones you redirected them to the new one. That in itself isn't generally harmful - but it's a good idea to disallow gbot from the old ones so they don't get crawled. You've essentially set up mirrors - again not a bad thing in itself, well, until gbot decides one of the old ones should rank instead of the new one ;)

If your truly penalized or banned I would look to your site content and navigation structure.. that's where the offensive matter would be.

[Phil_S]

"Describe what you mean by "urls combined". I don't get that. "

We had 4 urls going to the same site.

If you typed in (url-1.com) (url-2.net) (url-3.com)or (url-4.com) you would go to the same website.

It's not like that now, I seperated them 4 months ago, but Google still thinks they share the same website.

If I did a link check on Google for any of the urls, it showed the same links. But now I'm showing no back links, and a grey bar.

I don't think Google ever updated the IP address for these urls.

We have great content, we sell vitamins. We also have about 200 great incoming links to the newest url.

I don't do any spam or tricks.

Thanks,
Phil

[Brett_Tabke]

>but Google still thinks they share the same website.

Duplicate content penalty. Takes quite awhile to recover from. Give it a few updates and make sure you zap any duplicate content.

[running scared]

Wow, am I panicking unnecessarily? I have a single site with multiple domains pointing to them (sameurl.com, sameurl.co.uk, sameurl.org). sameurl.com/index.asp and sameurl.co.uk/index.asp are identical and served by the same server. If you go to other pages you appear to stay within the same domain you first entered the site on.

I definitely do not have any penalties but am I at risk?

[crash]

Your fine.. one key difference is that you have the same domain just different tlds. That's assuming your not promoting the .co.uk and .org ;) I know of quite a few sites that have all versions of their domain name, I do it myself, they (and I) just don't promote the various versions.

[liberty]

Phil

Make sure that your sporxxxxx.com doesn't exit to flxxxxxxxx.com Google would consider this duplicate content.

A clearer understanding of what was done with the site might get a better answer from moderator.

You had four domain names pointing to one IP address and all the domains had identical content, your SEO advised you to condense to the just one domain name on one IP address. Your hosting company did not understand this and for several months the IP address remained co-mingled unbeknown to all. When the hosting company finally got it together and shut down the 3 other domains Google did not like the new domain and appeared confused.

But it is currently listed #8 and can be found using the targeted words on the front page of Google. Interestingly enough when you click on the site from Google the PR is grayed out and shows the page not listed.

But sure enough it there and its also in Googles Category Directory and if you do a search for the "flexxxxxxxx.com" domain some 200 good clean links pointing in to the flexxxxxxx.com domain are listed. What does not seem to be showing up is link:flexxxxxxx.com its like Google took a coffee break. Personally I think an update or two will solve the problem.

Its also important to point out that one of the old domains was tagged as spam site from watchdogs and AOL because the vitamin site carried legitimate sexual aid products and contained language that porn filters would pick up. Also there were several links pointing in from sex chat rooms and one affiliate outgoing link from the home page that Alexa’s way back machine listed. It was for a dating site that later flip over a porn site, a common trick.

It also appears that someone high-jacked your mail server and used some names that ended in [e-mail] which were back traced to porn sites? An oddity?

The real worry at this time would be the new site you just created which is on its own domain name and different IP, but the store and all the exiting links from the new site (sportxxxx.com) point back to flexxxxxxx.com. You did not switch the stores internal links to the new domain. Not a good idea, basically its doing what was done before two domain pointing to the same content. Google will see that all the exit links go to the site flxxxxxxxx.com site. I would fix this ASAP but it may to late as you said Google came by two days ago.

Personally I would just wait for an update or two and delete the new site or at least do not make it avaiable until all the links resolve to the sporxxxxxx.com. This last update could have cost you more time in the penality box.

Any other insights?