Determining a ban

I want to buy this domain but?

[coosblues]

I have a domain i'm interested in buying that is currently for sale. I've read in some threads that at least some of you know how to determine the "past" of a site or it's current standing in google. Here is what I know about the site. 2 months old. About 2 weeks later Pr0 - after the Oct update a gray toolbar. That sounds bad to me, but is there a thread or site i can visit to find out the "condition of the site in google". thanks

[djgreg]

Hm, it should be difficult to find out whether there is a penalty on the site or not.
I wouldn't buy this site. There are so many domain-names which have never been used. Try one of these.

[rfgdxm1]

Yep. Never by a used domain of uncertain past. For all you know it got the Google Death Penalty and is banned until the end of time.

[Receptional]

<There are so many domain-names which have never been used. Try one of these>

Not so easy to spot either, there is a thread in here somewhere which GoogleGuy posted in, where a person had bought a domain name (so he thought) brand new, but it had actually been "put back" after being abused. So the Post still applies - how to check if a domain name has a black past?

[hurlimann]

Worth checking the domain at archive.org.
It's not foolproof but you can usually see if it was used badly.