Forum Moderators: open

Message Too Old, No Replies

On Being Booted and Modifying Site Structure

Wondering whether to theme site while out of Google or leave it alone

         

nvision

7:55 pm on Nov 2, 2002 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Hi everyone and anyone. Hope the weekend’s treating you well so far. Since I can’t quite get my mind off work I’ll ask a couple questions to ease it up.

1. One of the sites I manage was dropped from the big G during the September update. It was (is) a clean optimized site (went live in April, site is 2 years old) – the only drawback I can imagine are some links to sites that were banned in September and as a result mine got the boot (? not sure if that frame of thought's right... insight welcome). It was gray-barred all of October (after enjoying a beautiful PR6 for a few months – I did change hosting middle of August but if this were cause for a glitch in September update I would have thought/hoped it would be amended in October update), showing backlinks (from Dmoz, Google Directory and quality content-related sites). This past update it still has a gray bar and shows no backlinks whatsoever (still in Dmoz and with those quality links). Googlebot has not paid a visit all of October (?!). Any thoughts on this matter so far?

2. Anyway, as a result of the first point, I’m thinking of fiddling with my site while Google isn’t visiting. All content (about 100 pages so far but expanding bit by bit) are in the root. I’m thinking of themeing the site – I’ve been reading other posts but just wanted to fine-tune my “plan” and see what others’ thoughts are.

So. Let’s say the site is about rabbits

There’d be three subsections, eg. (fake url)

myfunnyrabbitsite.com
myfunnyrabbitsite.com/worldrabbits/index.htm
myfunnyrabbitsite.com/europeanrabbits/index.htm
myfunnyrabbitsite.com/americanrabbits/index.htm

Now, I’d link to all subcategories from the main index page. Then obviously subcategory index pages would branch out to content within each subcategory. My question is, if I have maybe 20 sub-pages within one category, eg.

/worldrabbits/bigrabbits.htm
/worldrabbits/mediumsizedrabbits.htm
/worldrabbits/iddybiddyrabbits.htm
etc.

would there be any foreseeable problem or issue if those pages linked between each other? Like a mini section navigation. (I’d be okay to link all those back to main index or not?) Or should I just have subcategory index pages link to all its pages and those link back to it?

(apologies to anyone that may suffer from acute confusion after reading that – my head’s in a muddle)

..or should I just leave the poor site as it stands now, be patient, and cross my fingers for a while, see if it comes back in time?

rfgdxm1

8:07 pm on Nov 2, 2002 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



>the only drawback I can imagine are some links to sites that were banned in September and as a result mine got the boot (? not sure if that frame of thought's right... insight welcome).

Do you know for a fact you were linking to sites that got the Google boot? If so, linking to bad neighborhoods is a Bad Thing in Google's eyes.

nvision

8:18 pm on Nov 2, 2002 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Yep, they were a set of client sites (which we think got penalised for heavy cross-linking).

are there hopes for such a site that kind of got stuck in the middle, if those links are taken off (which I did the moment it lost PR in September)?

Thanks.

Yidaki

8:51 pm on Nov 2, 2002 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



nvision, the plan seems pretty ok. You shouldn't worry about internal crosslinking - however, consider crosslinking in the sheme of a theme pyramide [searchengineworld.com] ... you allready read about it, no!?

P.e. i deeplink from my start page to different sub pages to hot spot them. Between the sub pages i crosslink to other *on-topic* sub pages. I also link from the deep pages to relevant higher level pages. I bet, you'll have a lot of fun doing this and figuring out the best strategy cause you'll learn a lot about your theme! Just look at your new structure through your target user's eyes. And read all you can about theme pyramides! ;)

[edited by: Yidaki at 9:12 pm (utc) on Nov. 2, 2002]

nvision

8:55 pm on Nov 2, 2002 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Yidaki - yes, I've been reading about themes (and will continue...after a good coffee break haha). Thanks for your help!