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Now my site is back

Gone for a month, now back

         

EAHunt

9:13 pm on Sep 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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If my site was gone for a month, and today it all of a sudden came back up. I did put up some major changes to it, but if you do www.mysite.com in the search it does not show up in the index and says it is "Sorry, no information is available for the url www.mysite.com

Anybody know why it is showing up, but on if you do the above?

Like a fool, looking at that horse's mouth again.

bobmark

9:42 pm on Sep 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I assume you mean it shows up on a keyword search, right?
Obviously there a re people here who could make a lot more educated guesses than me but I would think it is an old db result that has resurfaced through everflux or in the shifting leadung up to an update. You really won't know what is happening until you see your url on www3 or www2.

EAHunt

10:05 pm on Sep 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Well, they are in all three.

Question:

Where do they get the description, cause what I have in my meta tag description is not what is on the search results.

deejay

10:14 pm on Sep 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Google generally doesn't use META tags.

It will take a snippet from the text on your page, according to where it finds the search terms you have used. (ie, different snippet for different searches)

WebGuerrilla

10:14 pm on Sep 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Google auto generates the description using the chunk of text containing the search phrase.

You can find many past threads by searching for "snippets" or "randsom note"

bobriggs

10:14 pm on Sep 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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EAHunt, is this the kind of description that you're seeing?

[google.com...]

c1bernaught

10:15 pm on Sep 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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This very same thing has been happening to me. It seems that my "Fresh" tag is always updated when this occurs.

I wish I had an answer for you. My guess is that our sites are in the Google database but are hidden from view. We continue to be spidered because our sites are available to the spider, through the database, and that our pop up in the SERPs is either a fluke, a mistake, or bodes very well for the next index.

EAHunt

10:24 pm on Sep 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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"EAHunt, is this the kind of description that you're seeing?
[google.com...] "

Yes, it is exactly what I am seeing. You can't imagine how it felt after a long, long month when I see it back. The phones are already ring, off the hook.

Hope it sticks

bobriggs

2:53 am on Sep 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

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all of a sudden came back up

Did it come back up when you typed a search term or when you typed www.yoursite.com? Maybe came up with an interior page?

I don't want to be the bearer of bad news, but I would not

Hope it sticks

That message is for sites not in the database.

[edited by: bobriggs at 3:17 am (utc) on Sep. 25, 2002]

EAHunt

3:02 am on Sep 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

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when I typed in a search term

eplus

7:09 am on Sep 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

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It could be that the pages that linked to your site where reasonably fresh and their page rank hadn't settled down yet (same could be true of your site). The first time a page enters into the index it will tend to have a fairly high page rank (not sure why seems almost delibrate). The next time google crawls it happily distributes out the page rank from the page to any pages it links to but it gets rid of this strange high value. On the third oscillation google takes into account page rank from returning links to the page from pages it links too.

The net effect is a new page/site will tend to start with a high page rank which falls rapidly then returns (but not to what it was originally), then a smaller drop, then a smaller return and eventually it balances. Of course it rarely ever truly balances as the number and direction of links will tend to change over a 6 month period. I have noticed that new sites seem to appear high on their first month then nearly (or completly) disappear on the next month only to return on the third month.

You can see a lot of this for yourself by pokeing some figures in one of the page rank calculators linked to in other posts (sorry couldn't be bothered to find a link).

julinho

11:19 am on Sep 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

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EAHunt,

I have something similar happening to me.
One of my sites is new (gray bar). I have some good inbound links.
If I search www.mydomain.com, I am told the URL doesnīt exist.
However, my logs show that the site is being returned to several searches :).
To me, itīs clear that the site will get into the DB this coming update; I hope yours get too.

As for an explanation, it looks like GG keeps a different DB (or different tables) for the "fresher" pages (those which appear in SERPs with a date tag), and this DB is not queried when you search www.mydomain.com. This "fresh pages DB" would be updated much more often than the "stable pages DB", and so would demand different database configurations; having them separated would make the lives of GG's DBAs easier.

julinho

11:36 am on Sep 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

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eplus,

I also noticed that often times the first time a page appears it has a higher than expected (by me) PR.
However, I always thought that the reason for that happening is that, when my sites get listed by others, they usually get into at least two pages: New sites (usually higher PR) and the Category sites. If googlebot happens to crawl my partnerīs sites in a day when my site is in News (this is not uncommon, because the New listings are spread across several sites, over several days), I will get an extra PR which will vanish with time.

Canīt this be the explanation for your observations as well?