Frames with Google

beginners advice needed

[paulperoni]

Im sure this a topic that has come up many times in the past.

In a nutshell, using frames with search engines (including Google) good or bad?

I ask because the index.htm page will be the frameset page but contains no keyword content that is needed for people to searh on. if google indexes my site with frames and lists each frame separately, then it defeats the object. I would like people to hit my frameset page when searching but this is unlikely if google's cached version of my frameset page contains not valuable keyword content.

is there a way around this? is it worth the bother?

Thanks to anyone who offers advice.

[Black Knight]

This topic has been covered many, many times before, so it may be faster to simply search for some of those prior discussions.

[nipear]

Before Oct. 01' we had a frame based site. And we did very well in google. What we did was put a javascript on our framed content pages to look for a surrounding frameset. If it didn't see one it prompted the browser to load one that had the refering page as the content of the frameset. I don't have a clue where I found the code, but do a search on google for it and you should be able to track down some code like this.

So when someone searched for 'blue widget' our bluewidget.htm page would come up in the serps. When they clicked on the link the bluewidget.htm page would see no frameset and load one. Of course this won't work with non-java browsers but that's a small minority.

Also you will need to put links to your framed content pages somewhere where googlebot can find them

[WebGuerrilla]

Hi paulperoni,

Welcome to WebmasterWorld

You can find many past discussions on Google and frames here. [searchengineworld.com]