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When a doorway becomes spam..

Good content, lots of internal links - but still spam?

         

lavapies

4:59 pm on Aug 30, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hi guys,

I know there's been loads of discussion on this, but I'm still confused as to how the following senario is treated by Google.

I have an optimised page, with on-topic content, not keyword stuffed but optimised, with loads of links to other pages in the site (but only relevant to the content on the page).

OK, so this is a doorway page, I've deliberately put it there to rank highly in Google as my homepage has flash and other non-indexable material.

But I don't want this crappy design page to be viewed by my clients. So I don't include a link to it from index.htm to it. Is this now an orphan, despite having links to other pages in the site?

If so, I imagine I've answered my own question and it would be considered spam.

Just wondered what people thought. Any advice appreciated. Thanks :-)

Beachboy

5:03 pm on Aug 30, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I don't know that Google would consider it to be "spam" as such, but without any incoming links, it will be ignored. Your doorway page falls into a category perhaps best described as: Spam or Unimportant.

So get some inbound links.

rfgdxm1

5:09 pm on Aug 30, 2002 (gmt 0)

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You really should link to this page from index.htm. Flash on the home page? Ick.

Liane

5:12 pm on Aug 30, 2002 (gmt 0)

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To the best of my knowledge, an orphan page is a page which isn't linked "from" anything within the site and is also not linked "to" anything. I have had PR penalties imposed for this sort of thing twice. On both occassions, I was testing a document and forgot to take it down.

A doorway, on the other hand is exactly what you have described. It is an optimiuzed page which links to other pages within the site but which has no incoming links from the main site. It is obvious to all search engines that this is a doorway and will be penalized if detected by Googlebot ... at least, I am pretty sure, others will know better than I.

Flash on your home page? Why???

lavapies

5:47 pm on Aug 30, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for your replies folks. From what I can gather then my page should be linked to from the homepage to be effective as a doorway and not spam.

It is a hypothetical queetion by the way, the page does not exist.. yet :-)

With regards to falsh, ... hehe very quick to judge aren't we :-)

I think flash if sparingly used can be very effective. Check out the page in my profile to have a look what u think. Iam dead set against splash pages of any kind because they are normally both rubbish and irritating, but flash does have it's place, let's be fair folks!

liquidstar

6:44 pm on Aug 30, 2002 (gmt 0)

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To the best of my knowledge, an orphan page is a page which isn't linked "from" anything within the site and is also not linked "to" anything. I have had PR penalties imposed for this sort of thing twice. On both occassions, I was testing a document and forgot to take it down.

Is this really a penalty or just a fact that there are no pages linking to it so it's PR is 0? From the way I understand PR if there are no pages linking to it, and it isn't linking to anything the natureal PR would be 0 for it.