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Does se spam pay?

There are some sites making $1000s from spam

         

profitpuppy

12:09 am on Aug 30, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Most messages from SEO's state that spam doesn't pay in the long run. However, I have found dozens of top 10 ranking sites that are spamming in one form or another ... and are probably making a lot of money from it.

For example, the guy who owns the no 1 ranked site for <snip> When you do a backward link seach, you find out that he also owns the top ten ranking sites for <snip>, and lots of other keyword combinations. When you search for <snip> for example, he has 2 top 10 ranking sites. Plus for other keyword phrases he has up to 4 top 10 ranking sites. These rankings are probably worth $100k per month or more in profits. Is this spam? I would have thought it is link spam. For example, the way he sets it up is to have pages specifically linked to every other page in another website. He will have one page on a high page rank site that will link to every page on another high page rank site ... all on the same theme ... and does this for all his pages.

Of course, these are areas that are prone to lots of spamming, because they are no exactly areas where there are high moral standards :) ... but they are highly profitable areas for the spammer.

Personally I do believe that this sort of thing won't work for the long term ... google will eventually catch on, and penalize these pages. However, in the mean time, these guys are making millions, literally. Perhaps from google's point of view they probably don't care about this because only a small percentage of people are searching for these things, and they are trying to get quality results for the majority of people who are searching for normal topics. What do you think?

[edited by: Marcia at 3:38 am (utc) on Aug. 30, 2002]
[edit reason] specifics removed, TOS and charter [/edit]

NFFC

8:33 pm on Aug 30, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>If you want to know how to report spam to Google -> Post a hint on webmasterworld.

hehe, there are not many things in life that are 100% certain, this an exception. Any post that try's to "point out" individual sites will be edited to remove the references.

There is only one proper place to report spam on Google, it isn't here.

startup

8:33 pm on Aug 30, 2002 (gmt 0)

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We should not assume that the site owner is not a pro. All the tactics used to gain the rankings, no matter how blatant, served their purpose. It was going to come down.
Were links deliberately exchanged with the competition? How about how to create a "bad neighborhood" with a dual purpose. Make the money while while on top and take out the competition when caught. This tactic makes google an pawn in their own game.

born2drv

8:53 pm on Aug 30, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Let's say you pull out every dirty trick in the book to get your site listed higher. If you are making it list higher for "blue widgets" and it points to "blue widgets" on your site, what is the harm in that?

Note: I do not use any SPAM techniques on Google, I just think to some extent everyone here is a spammer, if they're trying to make their "relevant content" go higher up in the SERPS...

Rather than Google say what we should and shouldn't do to gain ranking, (cloaking, keyword stuffing, etc.) perhaps it should take the time to define what is "relevant content". Then by that definition we would know if we would get penalized for spamming, no matter which method we use.

To me, "relevant content" is something which closely relates the keywords you have chosen. At least 50% unique from any other page out there, not a mirror of another site, etc... But of course, Google's definition could be much more thourough and precise.

startup

10:28 pm on Aug 30, 2002 (gmt 0)

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We can't set policy for any SE. Knowing the rules and how they are applied is the first step. If for any reason you are not sure about the application of the rules, stay on the safe side. Once you decide to bend or push be prepared for what can happen.
We like our free listings the decision is yours.
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