PR, fresh pages, and results

[squared]

I added some new pages to my site on Monday and they're showing up today in the google index. Are these called fresh pages? I've read a little about fresh pages, but I thought they were certain pages that had high pr and were tagged to get checked more frequently.

Also, since Google just picked up my pages, I don't think they have a real pr calculation done. Would you agree? And would this mean that during the major update I could see better results?

Any ideas or insight?

[agerhart]

Squared, we are currently seeing Google adding brand new sites and pages in between updates, which is great news. See this thread: Google Update or Fresh Tag Returns - Everflux [webmasterworld.com]

Your new pages most likely do not have a PageRank yet, but will have an estimated PageRank shown in the Toolbar until Google calculates the score for the page.

[squared]

agerhart,

I just wanted to say thanks for the reply. I guess then I can look forward to improved rankings with my fresh pages once la dance de Google has begun. The new pages have a fairly high PR - most of them are sixes - and I wasn't happy where Google placed them within the current index.

One more question: Does anyone know if the estimated PR is a factor of where the fresh pages are placed in the index?

-Squared

[ciml]

> Does anyone know if the estimated PR is a factor of where the fresh pages are placed in the index?

The way I see it is that the estimated PR counts for exactly nothing, but for many site structures (internal links follow directories, external inbounds are to the home page) it's a good estimate.

[squared]

ciml,

Great. I hope that means I should get better results with the fresh pages when the Google dance begins.

Does anyone else have any experience with fresh pages going up in the SERPS when the dance happens?

thanx,
squared

[muesli]

hi squared,

i don't really have any comparison but my new site (in the index for the first time, wears timestamp of aug 27th, no PR yet) ranks 24th on a search with 480k results and 42nd on a search with 2 million results.

both searches are very commercial, thus probably quite some SEO was done for many of my competitors. i see time stamps at about 1/3 of the pages ahead of mine.

muesli