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Just getting listed in Yahoo

How big of an impact on google

         

Helpmebe1

10:51 pm on Aug 14, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hey all.. I know we have some real Google experts in this forum, Including Googleguy. I just got accepted in Yahoo today and should appear within the next couple of days in the directory. I have two questions:

The page my yahoo listing will show on in the directory is a PR5. I have a very low PR on my site being we just opened up the site a month ago. How big of an impact will this show along with an ODP listing. PR on ODP is only a 2 for the page our listing shows in in ODP. Can anyone guesstimate?

Also, is it to late for this Yahoo listing that will show in the next 2 days or so to count and be included in the next Google dance at the end of this month? Did we miss out for this months dance and will have to wait to the end of Sept Dance?

If anyone can give some kind of feedback, please do.

Thanks!

ScottM

11:02 pm on Aug 14, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I'll give a shot at your first question:

Just because Yahoo has a PR5, doesn't mean you'll be listed there. If the ODP cat. you're listed in has only a PR2, then chances are you'll end up being pretty low in the Directory listings on Yahoo.

But cheer up...take the time to get some inbound links and get your PR up...your listing in Yahoo will rise also. (Mine did!)

As for your second question: My guess is 'Yes, you are too late."

Helpmebe1

7:50 am on Aug 15, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Just because Yahoo has a PR5, doesn't mean you'll be listed there. If the ODP cat. you're listed in has only a PR2, then chances are you'll end up being pretty low in the Directory listings on Yahoo.

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Question, ok, I see everyones PR in DMOZ in my alphabetical listing as well as the entire category is a PR2, and in Yahoo as of right now I am on the same page as everyone else which has a PR of 5. Why would my Yahoo PR5 not count as a PR5??? Am I missing the boat on something here??

Well that stinks that I might be to late for this to count in google, but theirs next month I guess. Please explain why you feel my yahoo would not count as a PR5 though? Im confused on that.

Thanks in advance.

Chris

mbauser2

8:07 am on Aug 15, 2002 (gmt 0)

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<i>Why would my Yahoo PR5 not count as a PR5??? Am I missing the boat on something here??</i>

The biggest thing you're missing is the fact that Yahoo redirects outgoing links through a tracking server. There is a lot of debate here as to whether or not "tracking links" are counted by Google as a link to your page. (I'm leaning towards "not", myself, because I never see Yahoo listed in the "backwards links" list created by Google's "link" command.)

As for the rest, I'm not sure you and ScottM are talking about the same things, so I'm going to stay out of it, other than to point out that the boost you recieve from a page linking to you is inversely proportional to the number of links on that page. You get a link from a "overloaded" page, and it's really a very small boost.

Helpmebe1

8:20 am on Aug 15, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Mbauser,
Thanks! So basically my yahoo listing on a PR5 page wont count for anything towards google? Noooo.. can that be? Ok.. I guess I have something to learn about this yahoo google relationship. I thought this link would of giving a nice boost in out rank - well a decent help that is.

Chris

jaytierney

8:55 am on Aug 15, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I don't have anything specific as evidence, but generally speaking my sites have performed MUCH better in Google after being listed in Yahoo. It's only logically that it would have some kind of effect, maybe not by PR but possibly categorization (thus helping with your target keywords)?

steveb

9:20 am on Aug 15, 2002 (gmt 0)

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A Yahoo link is very good one. DMOZ is even better. Those two plus the Google Directory are the basics of page rank.

ScottM

11:15 am on Aug 15, 2002 (gmt 0)

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HelpMeBe1:

In your first post you stated you had not been listed in Yahoo...yet.

You then presumed you would be listed on a PR5. That is the first question I was answering.

No matter how you slice it, a Yahoo listing is good. The problem is people pay/get a listing and then are upset it's not ranked how they like it.

I suppose a PR out of the chute would be a low 4....but it's just a guess.

Helpmebe1

4:38 pm on Aug 15, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hey, Thanks Scott..yes, well ok.. when I first wrote I was not yet listed by knew what page I would land on in Yahoo.. then a couple of hours later I was actually listed on Yahoo (was just approved and they acted quickly in listing my site) and I landed on the PR5 page I thought I would. For some reason the ODP section for me has a much lower PR then Yahoo. I wonder why such a big difference in PR from the Yahoo section to the ODP section. Well in either case a PR of 4 would actually be pretty damn good for a new site I think, especially being the top sites for my stuff usually carry a PR5, sometimes a PR of 6 but that is rare. Thanks everyone for your feedback thus far with this, I thought ODP and Yahoo give a big boost... I was confused for a minute... (Sorry Scott if I didnt explain properly)